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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Yeah I've been happy overall with this kit. The car is very lively when its 75 degrees or less outside. This was a hot summer in TX, so I've spent the last few months just putting around in the thing. I took it out this past weekend and it was about 60 degrees. I had a hard time keeping the thing planted on the pavement, lol. Dipping into the throttle in 2nd and 3rd yielded wheel spin easily. I've always assumed the kit was good for at least a mid 12, but I'm not much of a track guy. We're planning to move to Colorado in the summer, so the high temps won't be as much of a problem... too bad I'll be living at 7000' feet though. Ahh well, give and take I guess... If I had to do it all over again... I'd have bought a GT500.
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I just want a SC to able to keep with with the EVOs and STIs from a DIG or roll.

(-:

Because right now, the gears and tune just isn't cutting it.

(O_o)!?
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth_GT
I just want a SC to able to keep with with the EVOs and STIs from a DIG or roll.

(-:

Because right now, the gears and tune just isn't cutting it.

(O_o)!?
Well, you're always going to be traction challenged from a dig. Even with this non-IC Vortech from a dig, if I'm not careful I'll spin from the tune alone. And thats not even considering the fact that it makes enough boost to start spinning my 275's at WOT within like 2 seconds of take off. I would imagine a twin screw would have even more issue staying down. People paint these centris as "laggy", however its just in reality not that bad. Its not like flipping a switch, but we're talking hitting boost very quickly, especially with gears. I actually think if you're looking to beat an STi or EVO, that the centri would be the way to go. Those cars launch hard but run out of steam fast (I had a heavily modifed WRX a couple years ago, I'm familiar with that scene and those cars). The centri pulls gradually but like a freight train to redline. They'll take you off the line possibly, but you'll reel them in.

No matter which kit you get, you're going to need suspension and some sticky tires if launching from a dead stop is your goal...
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth_GT
I just want a SC to able to keep with with the EVOs and STIs from a DIG or roll.

(-:

Because right now, the gears and tune just isn't cutting it.

(O_o)!?
Who says you need a blower to keep up/slightly pull a turbo swapped STi from a roll ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EHIjgVPacM

Of course, when my friend runs his 385WHP tune I am toast, but that night he was not. Oh, and I have rematched him a few times with my Mickey's on. Lets say that it didnt go so well for him...
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceH
Last year I saw a guy run 12.38 with a non-intercooled Vortech on a 2007 GT. He had an auto, 4.10 gears, 3500 stall, DR's, and was tuned to 351 rwhp on a Mustang dyno.


once I get some DRs, I'll pull those times real easy

yet, still trapping 105 for some reason lulz
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth_GT
once I get some DRs, I'll pull those times real easy

yet, still trapping 105 for some reason lulz
Same guy is now in the high 11's.
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceH
Same guy is now in the high 11's.
upgraded to the H.O. kit I assume?
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth_GT
upgraded to the H.O. kit I assume?
No, just really has a feel for what he's doing.
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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I have a question. You guys talk about launching, what is it that you do. I have never been to a track (I will in time) but I have a nice stretch of back road off HWY 87 in Navarre Florida on Old Chotaw road. I go down that and do some runs. I let it rev at 1800rpm and just dump and gun, what do you guys do?
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I seen this s197 ripping through the gears, yet couldn't even break into the 14s until later in the night, and it was 14.5s even. Not sure what he had but he was having a horrible time trying to launch it. Long stretches of road or pulling on the freeway is fun, but personally I like the drag strip A LOT better. I still like to speed on the streets, but not so much anymore. If you want to practice launching, those deserted spots you are talking about are perfect.

Haven't driven a manual in awhile, but 1800 rpm sounds like a good place to start, then find the sweet spot, feather the throttle and give it hell!

In my auto, I power brake it HARD to about 2500, lift up on the brakes as I feather the throttle and go WOT as soon as I feel it hook.

Consistent 2.0/2.1 60 ft.s on street tires.



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