MustangFTW

fancy irs means a price hike, which puts the mustang out of the reach of its current followers. as of now it starts at 22k which is easily affordable for the majority of people. adding the irs puts the mustang closer to the price range of higher end sports cars, a loaded GT can cost 40k, add irs and it will be closer to 50k, then it has to compete with the corvette.....

Torch_Vert

Agreed wut?

http://jalopnik.com/5852106/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEhnugwzCc

If one is applying the current "Sports Coupe = Sports Car even if it does have too many seats", even the current Mustangs especially the Boss can go toe to toe with the Bimmer in everything but refinement, and honestly nobody wants a Mustang that refined anyway. We want sheer brutal capability to get the job done, not European finesse.

Ditty

My insurance company CLEARLY classes a Mustang as a "Sports Car". And, IMHO, it is, in fact, a Sports Car. It's a Car, that is Sporty, therefore, Sports Car.
I define a 'sports car' as a car, that handles very well, is quick/fast, sporty to drive and in looks, and has 2 doors. (SOME 4 door cars CAN fit in the 'sports car' formula.)

Now, is it also a Muscle Car? YES. It fills the formula for BOTH. Maybe it's a CrossOver???!!! LOL.

MustangFTW

im talking about the sports car vs muscle car shenanigans. imo a irs belongs on a high end "sports car" the mustang does perfectly fine with a live rear axle. for those that want it for auto x, a lighter mustang would be better then a heavier irs mustang.

Torch_Vert

So the current Mustang is a "muscle car" while the current Camaro and Challenger are "sports cars"?

mhass350

I posted this elsewhere on the forum but it seems this thread may be a bit more appropriate, has anyone read or heard when orders will open up for the 2013's?

I've been pricing new 2012s and couldn't find one I liked so I was going to order one in the next week or two but Sunday night my wife (of all people) said she saw a re-design for the Mustang. I was sure she was talking about the 2015 re-design but she was sure she read Spring 2012.

Well, I'm glad I jumped on Google as I like the 2013 even more than the 2012s; HiDs are now standard, the rear tails, the slight bump in HP, the 4.5" LCD screen in the gauge cluster. And at this point I can wait another 3-months - the dealership indicated that an order placed now for a 2012 would be delivered in late-Feb/early-March.

pdonket

That's what I as thinking. If the camaro and challenger have IRS, the mustang needs to follow suit and make a move for the better.

I feel like the whole "things are good now, so why think of changing" policy is just worthless. It can still be a muscle car even with IRS and more fancy systems on board. IMO the challenger is more muscle than today's mustang, and yet it has IRS..

X3xMONGOOSEx3X

The Challenger is more of a throwback muscle car while the Camaro and Mustang are closer to their pony car heritage.

pdonket

Yep that's exactly what I'm getting at, they're just different representations of the past.