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Old 06-18-2013, 01:43 PM   #1
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Hello AM folks, Hi Shane.

First of all my apologies if I opened a thread only for that; I'm sure there is plenty of other similar requests but when I did search it was like browsing the whole forum for how many there were...

So, in a close future (I need to wait to mount some engine parts I already ordered from you ) I have to change tires to my 2005 GT 'vert with stock 17" and I was planning to have bigger shoes/wheels

I really like the GT500 replica but I don't know what to choose between 18 and 19"

I know that bigger is better (except for headache and kidney stones) but I didn't find a good picture to see the difference.

On your website I saw the Customer pictures to see in real the effect but some of those are confusing; it seems someone posted a 19" on the 18" section (I saw the same pictures on forum with the tag 19") and instead of helping me it confused me more (for sure is not your fault, it's me that I'm weird)

So my considerations are:

18"
I see the 18" and it seems a good size for my ride, and if I'm right, it was the same size for the Shelby 2009.
but some picture with the 18" has "chubby" tires so I was wondering what could be the real effect with the 255/45/18 you are proposing on the kit

19"
I like the 19" look but I'm not sure if on my car it will be "too much" especially because I'm considering to lower it a little bit, 1.3"F/1.6"R
but at the same time, maybe I'm wrong, comparing the tires, 255/45/18 and 245/45/19, same model obviously, they don't have a huge price difference, so, putting a 18" to have a maintenance money save it could be useless.

I see a lot of pictures of coupe but I don't know why, the convertible has a different impact on the wheels decision.

do you have any suggestion about the 18 / 19, considering the car proportion and the tire cost difference? (unfortunately I commute a lot)

thank you in advance guys for your help

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Old 06-18-2013, 06:46 PM   #2
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DLEN,

I don't really think you can go wrong with an 18" or 19" wheel on an 05-09 S197 Mustang. They both fill up the wheel well perfectly IMO, it just depends on the look you're going for. Since you're not looking for a "chubby" tire and still at stock ride height, then I think a 19" wheel would suit you best.

Were you looking at the 2010 or the 2013 GT500 wheels? I'll post up some good reference pictures with the set you're looking for, once I know what style you're interested in.

Now, there are still benefits to using an 18" wheel over a 19", too. You'll see a VERY slightly better ride quality with the 18" wheel over rough roads. Also, the 18's look much better under lowered Mustangs than stock ride height Mustangs. Not to say the 19's don't... again, looks are all opinion.

Hopefully this helps your decision! Plus, once I know exactly which wheel and finish you were looking at, I'll be able to post up some pics for you to reference. Let me know if there's anything else I can assist you with, too!

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Were you looking at the 2010 or the 2013 GT500 wheels?
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Thank you Shane for the reply,

yep my apologies, I forgot to tell you the model year, I like the 2010 five spokes:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/machin...eels-0511.html

Reading your suggestions, I think the 18" is more suitable because I'm planning to lower it a little bit. the 17" I have is something like they swapped from Prius, is really out of proportion with the car...

anyway, I'll wait for the pictures. Thank you again for your help.

PS: I take the chance to ask you another info:

I was reading the review about the lowering springs, almost on all models, they needed to buy also the camber adjustment bolt. Is it really "mandatory" even with springs with 1.3/1.6"?

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I'd say 19 is ideal for our car, but 18 looks really good too.
17 is too small, 20 only looks good with tall & super wide tires

depending on your car color, you should consider black or charcoal rims, they look really nice.

make sure to get 27" diameter tires.
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17 is too small,
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depending on your car color, you should consider black or charcoal rims, they look really nice.
the car is White. I'm not very convinced with the black rims, they loose the design look.

I have black stripes so they could match but I think it will be "too much"
also because I'm planning to change the stripes in the future, maybe in matte white with writing in "phantom" color. So I will leave less black and Machined or charcoal should be a nice choice.

GT500 2010 are not charcoal but the 19" boss Laguna Seca style they do...
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You could go black/charcoal with some type of polished/chrome lip to keep the design a little visible.

They would match your stripes too.



Edit: Whoops just read you were thinking about removing the stripes. Lol my bad, in that case you can't go wrong with some machined GT500 replicas IMO.
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Edit: Whoops just read you were thinking about removing the stripes. Lol my bad, in that case you can't go wrong with some machined GT500 replicas IMO.
yep, I like the carbon look stripes but I see too much black on it, especially on the rear that I made black the decklid too.

I want to leave carbon stripes but in less surface than now. I'm still studying a couple of ideas on it

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with some type of polished/chrome lip to keep the design a little visible.
yep, it's a good suggestion. I was thinking on that too but I didn't find yet the rim I like...
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Thank you Shane for the reply,

yep my apologies, I forgot to tell you the model year, I like the 2010 five spokes:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/machin...eels-0511.html

Reading your suggestions, I think the 18" is more suitable because I'm planning to lower it a little bit. the 17" I have is something like they swapped from Prius, is really out of proportion with the car...

anyway, I'll wait for the pictures. Thank you again for your help.

PS: I take the chance to ask you another info:

I was reading the review about the lowering springs, almost on all models, they needed to buy also the camber adjustment bolt. Is it really "mandatory" even with springs with 1.3/1.6"?

thx

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Maurizio,

I agree the 17's are just way too small for S197 Mustangs. The 18's will really change the appearance compared to the stockers.

I added two photos below of an 18" 2010 GT500 wheel on a 05-09 Mustang. They were pulled right from our customer submitted photos, but I can confirm the wheels are definitely 18's!

Also, when lowering your 05-10 Mustang 1.3/1.6" you usually can get away with the stock camber adjustments. However, I would pick up camber bolts to make the camber adjustment even better. So, I wouldn't say it's mandatory..

Shane

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Thank you Shane for the pictures. I can't tell you which size is better but definitely the 18" is a nice look and it has a good proportion with the car body.

I think I will take the 18x9 for all four wheels, I like the staggered style but because of my commuting I need something I can rotate easily (with the staggered I can only swap tires, non asymmetric, removing them from the rim and keep them anyway on the same axle... to much hassle and less result)
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About the springs:

I know that lowered springs and stock shocks are not a perfect match but for now I would like to try step by step starting with the springs?

which model can you suggest me? I don't go to the track, I think all you have in your store are progressive right? I only want to lower the car a little bit to have a better looking and remove the "fishing boat effect" when accelerating and braking.

I know Eibach and HR Brand because I was using them in Europe but I don't have any information about SR, Steeda and Ford Racing. Even I suppose they are anyway good brands, my meter now is only the price. But even buying the more expensive set doesn't mean that I could reach what I want, maybe they are perfect for track but too stiff for the normal driving...

It's easy to choose the SR (only one model) but I see different specification for the other brands, like K or P model for Steeda.

do you have any suggestion?

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For 05-14 Mustangs we do only have progressive springs, which is a good thing! I wouldn't suggest anything else because of the suspension style of these model Mustangs.

Since you're looking to eliminate the wheel well gap, but still maintain ride comfort and keep cost to a minimum... I highly suggest the SR Performance springs. They'll lower the Mustang 1.5" front and back for a perfect ride height, too.

The SR springs are designed to provide a comfortable ride while maintaining longevity and performance. Of course, they can be used at the track and will easily out perform stock springs, but still aren't as aggressive as Eibach or Steeda. IMO, they're a happy medium for a nice daily driver that occasionally sees the track.

Hope this info helps! Let me know if you have other questions.

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Since you're looking to eliminate the wheel well gap, but still maintain ride comfort and keep cost to a minimum... I highly suggest the SR Performance springs. They'll lower the Mustang 1.5" front and back for a perfect ride height, too.
Unfortunately I see on the note that "Does not fit convertible models."

I'm not sure why, maybe the different weight I guess.

Yesterday I was checking better on your website and among all lowering springs, for my GT Convertible , the choice is reduced to these models:

Eibach SportLine
Eibach Pro
H&R SuperSport
H&R Race (are not progressive springs)

and SR, Steeda and Ford Racing have for coupe only.

maybe do you have a specific model for Convertible that it's still not on your website?

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Hope this info helps! Let me know if you have other questions.

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As usual, thank you for your reply, Don't worry I'll bother you as much is possible

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Maurizio,

Sorry about that I forgot your Mustang was a vert! In that case, your best bet for comfort and functionality is the Eibach Pro springs. They'll do better than the Sportline's with the factory struts and shocks, since it's a slightly taller stance.

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Unfortunately I see on the note that "Does not fit convertible models."

I'm not sure why, maybe the different weight I guess.

Yesterday I was checking better on your website and among all lowering springs, for my GT Convertible , the choice is reduced to these models:

Eibach SportLine
Eibach Pro
H&R SuperSport
H&R Race (are not progressive springs)

and SR, Steeda and Ford Racing have for coupe only.

maybe do you have a specific model for Convertible that it's still not on your website?



As usual, thank you for your reply, Don't worry I'll bother you as much is possible

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I have the pros on my 2011 vert, love them.
on regular roads, the car handles so much better than stock, I love it.
on bad roads, you notice that the car is slightly stiffer
if you hit a pothole or a very bad road you'll notice right away that your car is lowered. but that only happened once.

all in all, I love it. and if I can get a better handling going even lower, I think I would do it. worth it.

if you chose eibach pros, make sure to run tires stock diameters or taller. front is a very nice stance, but rear there's a noticeable gap that would be nice if your tire could fill it. stock is 27". I'd say 27.5"-28" is ideal on the rear with eibach pros. 27" is fine in front (even though I guess 27.5" would look better)

I installed my suspensions myself a couple week ends ago. first install I did.
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- buy the gt500 mounts. yes. mandatory. the oem v6/gt mounts are such a PITA to screw/unscrew, you wouldn't believe it. (furthermore they look very very cheap).
- do all at once. if you plan on doing struts & shocks, replace all at once, or you'll lose a lot of time. it's not swapping the new shocks/springs that takes time, it's the whole getting to the struts process.

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Thanks for the feedback cariacou! I'm sure this will help Maurizio with his decision. Nothing better than a honest customer experience!

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on bad roads, you notice that the car is slightly stiffer
I'm lucky that here the roads I use to drive are in good condition and, unfortunately, too straight for my tastes. I wish more curves to enjoy the baby but it's ok .

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if you chose eibach pros, make sure to run tires stock diameters or taller.
I'm more oriented with the non staggered size, in this way I can rotate them but I didn't decide yet; with a 25K miles per year, I should change tires every two years so, maybe the expense difference is well absorbed. Still thinking on that but thank you for the advice


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I installed my suspensions myself a couple week ends ago.
I didn't check mine from the trunk but for what I read, the Vert has a rear shock strut bar to remove when replacing the rear shocks. Is it on the top of the shocks dome right? under the trunk carpet?
By the way, I should remove that only in case I'll do Springs and Shocks, for springs only I need only to unbolt the shock from the bottom, I guess (sorry for the stupid question, I don't have a lot of experience on Mustang suspensions (yet )


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- buy the gt500 mounts. yes. mandatory. the oem v6/gt mounts are such a PITA to screw/unscrew, you wouldn't believe it. (furthermore they look very very cheap).
mmm a very recurrent advice...


do you know how much is the cost for the GT500 mounts? I think at Ford Parts they will peel me for those.
I saw the AM camber adjust plates but, sorry to seem thight-***, they cost as the shocks . for sure it's worth, I know my stock mount suck but I have to do little things at little step for now


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yep I know, I'll sound stupid but I don't know most of the abbreviations that you guys use to write... what is dd?

thx for your feedback
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Hi guys, here's me again.

I was a bit absent on the forum, I just moved and still unpacking so, time to write was not really easy to find these weeks.


anyway, I just ordered the new shoes for my baby and I can't way they will arrive!!

On the last post I said I decided for 18" gt500 style, after a whole month of thinking and thinking and thinking...


... and I guess it was not enough because after another month I ordered the 19" charcoal Boss Laguna Seca Style

I'm really excited and I can't wait to see how it could be with those on my ride!
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Good choice on wheel style! Make sure to post up some pics for all of us to check out, once the new wheels are installed. I'm sure you'll love them!

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