65 steering box upgrade
02-25-2012, 09:54 AM
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65 steering box upgrade
Need some advice. Have A 65 with many mods. Installing a new 302 EFI and want to upgrade my steering. Looked at rack and pinion then ran across Lee Mfg in CA that blueprints boxes. From the forums, mostly Chevy, the end result is very close to rack and pinion and a fraction of cost. Problem is I have trouble getting a response from them so I started looking at Borgeson and some other options. Any advice. Best bang for the buck. As far as suspension I have Maier Racing sfc's, X member, Bilstein shocks, and Wilwood disc on all 4. Thanks
02-26-2012, 08:46 AM
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02-27-2012, 06:07 PM
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Install a new Argentina Box, Use Both hands, Grunt hard to get it turned.
The Effert to change from the stock manual 5 turn to the "new-Better" 4 turn steering box is totally untrue, the 4 turn turns harded.
Simple gears, gear ratios, No one can deny this.
If going from a Factory PS car (A 4 Turn Box), change the box to a 5 turn box. 65 66 HCC AT Box, 67 SMB A Box--68 69 70 SMB D Box, it will turn much easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
The Effert to change from the stock manual 5 turn to the "new-Better" 4 turn steering box is totally untrue, the 4 turn turns harded.
Simple gears, gear ratios, No one can deny this.
If going from a Factory PS car (A 4 Turn Box), change the box to a 5 turn box. 65 66 HCC AT Box, 67 SMB A Box--68 69 70 SMB D Box, it will turn much easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
02-27-2012, 08:40 PM
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Install a new Argentina Box, Use Both hands, Grunt hard to get it turned.
The Effert to change from the stock manual 5 turn to the "new-Better" 4 turn steering box is totally untrue, the 4 turn turns harded.
Simple gears, gear ratios, No one can deny this.
If going from a Factory PS car (A 4 Turn Box), change the box to a 5 turn box. 65 66 HCC AT Box, 67 SMB A Box--68 69 70 SMB D Box, it will turn much easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
The Effert to change from the stock manual 5 turn to the "new-Better" 4 turn steering box is totally untrue, the 4 turn turns harded.
Simple gears, gear ratios, No one can deny this.
If going from a Factory PS car (A 4 Turn Box), change the box to a 5 turn box. 65 66 HCC AT Box, 67 SMB A Box--68 69 70 SMB D Box, it will turn much easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
02-28-2012, 06:30 AM
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The HCC AT BOX is a 65 66 5 turn Manual steering box. If your Mustang has stock manual steering, it is a HCC AT Box, unless it's a GT, which is a HCC AX 4 turn.
Yes-Yes, the new 4 turn boxes ARE HARDER to turn than the stock 5 turn box. To my knowledge, none of the new boxes are 5 turn.
People get it all messed up, thinking the 4 turn is easier, just the oposite.
5 turn is easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
Yes-Yes, the new 4 turn boxes ARE HARDER to turn than the stock 5 turn box. To my knowledge, none of the new boxes are 5 turn.
People get it all messed up, thinking the 4 turn is easier, just the oposite.
5 turn is easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
02-28-2012, 03:27 PM
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The HCC AT BOX is a 65 66 5 turn Manual steering box. If your Mustang has stock manual steering, it is a HCC AT Box, unless it's a GT, which is a HCC AX 4 turn.
Yes-Yes, the new 4 turn boxes ARE HARDER to turn than the stock 5 turn box. To my knowledge, none of the new boxes are 5 turn.
People get it all messed up, thinking the 4 turn is easier, just the oposite.
5 turn is easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
Yes-Yes, the new 4 turn boxes ARE HARDER to turn than the stock 5 turn box. To my knowledge, none of the new boxes are 5 turn.
People get it all messed up, thinking the 4 turn is easier, just the oposite.
5 turn is easier.
Dan @ Chockostang
02-28-2012, 09:33 PM
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Need some advice. Have A 65 with many mods. Installing a new 302 EFI and want to upgrade my steering. Looked at rack and pinion then ran across Lee Mfg in CA that blueprints boxes. From the forums, mostly Chevy, the end result is very close to rack and pinion and a fraction of cost. Problem is I have trouble getting a response from them so I started looking at Borgeson and some other options. Any advice. Best bang for the buck. As far as suspension I have Maier Racing sfc's, X member, Bilstein shocks, and Wilwood disc on all 4. Thanks
Have you considered a Borgeson PS conversion? FWIW, I'm using the stock power steering with the stock 5.0L Mustang box in my EFI equipped '65. I wouldn't mistake it for R&P, but it does work well.
02-29-2012, 09:04 AM
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I have an 808 steering box built by Tommy Lee in my Jeep. It is obviously built for different results, but it is a nice piece and works great. I don't remember what I paid several years ago, but it was not cheap.
Have you considered a Borgeson PS conversion? FWIW, I'm using the stock power steering with the stock 5.0L Mustang box in my EFI equipped '65. I wouldn't mistake it for R&P, but it does work well.
Have you considered a Borgeson PS conversion? FWIW, I'm using the stock power steering with the stock 5.0L Mustang box in my EFI equipped '65. I wouldn't mistake it for R&P, but it does work well.
Last edited by Dennis Marks; 02-29-2012 at 09:13 AM.