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How much power is this engine making in my fathers 1973 mach1?

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Old 07-12-2012, 04:39 PM   #1
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specs: '69 351w block stock bottom end besides the JE flat top pistons, 1971 351c h.o 4v closed chamber ported heads with crane cams valve springs, split keepers, and steel spring retainers, Manley race stainless 2.19 intake 1.71 exhaust valves, compression around 11:1 or more, 1969 351w 8.152" pushrods, 1.6 comp magnum roller rockers, hydraulic flat tappet and lifter kit H-288-2 crane cam Duration 288/292 Lift .528/.536 powerband: 2,500-5,500rpm, 1 5/8'' 3'' col. hooker headers, B&A ford street boss 351w manifold to fit the cleveland heads, mallory unilite and at last a 750cfm Holley double pumper carb. Car is currently running off of straight pipes with no crossover pipe, has a c6 tranny with 10'' B&M 2500 stall, 9'' detroit locker with 3.25 gears.
Does anybody have opinions on how much this street beast is putting out
I am saying around 400+hp leave comments thank you!
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:07 AM   #2
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Go get it dynoed and fine out is the only real way of knowing.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #3
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V8 351 ci Q code (Cobra Jet) 266 hp
V8 351 h code 144 hp
V8 302 f code 171 hp
V6 250 ci code? 89 hp
Believe all are hp at fly wheel
Check VIN# for engine code
These ar hp ratings appear in several '73 Mach 1 specs
Like it was pointed out above, a dyno will show the true hp
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:32 PM   #4
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Just curious, why did you go with the cleveland heads?

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Old 07-15-2012, 08:32 AM   #5
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V8 351 ci Q code (Cobra Jet) 266 hp
V8 351 h code 144 hp
V8 302 f code 171 hp
V6 250 ci code? 89 hp
Believe all are hp at fly wheel
Check VIN# for engine code
These ar hp ratings appear in several '73 Mach 1 specs
Like it was pointed out above, a dyno will show the true hp
There was no V6's just I6's.
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:34 AM   #6
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Just curious, why did you go with the cleveland heads?
Probably because Cleveland heads breath better.
A Boss 302 is basically give or take a regular 302 with 351 Cleveland 4V heads, it is more involved then that, but the basic idea.
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Thanks for the correction on V6!
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:05 PM   #8
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The cleveland heads definitely breathe better because of the big valves and what made it more better was that they are closed chambered for higher compression, that's why they been chose.
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The cleveland heads definitely breathe better because of the big valves and what made it more better was that they are closed chambered for higher compression, that's why they been chose.
I'm very familiar with the head design was just curious why you went with the 4v heads which generally don't make good power/torque unless at high rpm without ALOT of work going into them. Was just wondering why you didn't go with aftermarket windsor aluminum heads but hey as long as your happy that's all that matters. Now, lets see a pic of the car.
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:30 AM   #10
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specs: '69 351w block stock bottom end besides the JE flat top pistons, 1971 351c h.o 4v closed chamber ported heads with crane cams valve springs, split keepers, and steel spring retainers, Manley race stainless 2.19 intake 1.71 exhaust valves, compression around 11:1 or more, 1969 351w 8.152" pushrods, 1.6 comp magnum roller rockers, hydraulic flat tappet and lifter kit H-288-2 crane cam Duration 288/292 Lift .528/.536 powerband: 2,500-5,500rpm, 1 5/8'' 3'' col. hooker headers, B&A ford street boss 351w manifold to fit the cleveland heads, mallory unilite and at last a 750cfm Holley double pumper carb. Car is currently running off of straight pipes with no crossover pipe, has a c6 tranny with 10'' B&M 2500 stall, 9'' detroit locker with 3.25 gears.
Does anybody have opinions on how much this street beast is putting out
I am saying around 400+hp leave comments thank you!
I think your 400+ hp estimate is in the ball park, based on my clevor's dyno2000 guestimate of 418 hp and 435 torque...
Mine is a 377 with port/polish 2V open chamber heads, 2.08/1.71 valves, CR=10:1 with dish pistons, 1.7 roller rockers, comp cam w/.510/.550 lift, rhoads lifters, 1-5/8" 3" col. hedman headers, street boss 351 manifold, MSD ignition, holley 750 vac sec carb.
I went 2V since I live at 5000 feet and could use more velocity than 4V heads. I've heard of using port plates to increase low end torque on the 4Vs.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:07 PM   #11
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I'm very familiar with the head design was just curious why you went with the 4v heads which generally don't make good power/torque unless at high rpm without ALOT of work going into them. Was just wondering why you didn't go with aftermarket windsor aluminum heads but hey as long as your happy that's all that matters. Now, lets see a pic of the car.


This is my fathers car, he built it up back in the late 80's wasn't my idea to put those heads on. Not sure if thats the right camshaft that i listed on, it might be a better one he said crane cam 292 but he don't know the lift. Here's a video of the car running on old gas after sitting for couple of years
<<< TURN VOLUME ALL THE WAY use to run this engine on race fuel 104 octane then added a little octane booster, it would shoot 6ft blue flames out of the pipes lol.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:48 PM   #12
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This was built back in the late 80's and it's been sitting for that long. This car used to scare me when i was younger especially when it would get pulled out of the garage after sitting for a while and started up with open headers, blue flames would be coming out of it, it would jump the hell out of ya and when reved high it would give an awesome rumble that no other car had, that would shake the ground right under your feet, you know what i mean lol (mustang owners). It still scares me till this day, can't beat the sound of an old 351. It don't sound as beastly in the video as in real life, but it is quieter with the straight pipes ending before the rear axle and it really shouldn't be running on 2 year old regular grade.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:19 PM   #13
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has it ever been to the dragstrip? MPH through the traps can give you a clue if you have the info for the formula....
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:34 PM   #14
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Id say low to mid 400's probably
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:01 AM   #15
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has it ever been to the dragstrip? MPH through the traps can give you a clue if you have the info for the formula....

It's never been down the drag strip, it sat in the garage most of the time for like 20 years since my dad has had it. But we would take it down the road once in a while. Maybe some day I can take it down the strip when I get some cash going here. It does need quite a bit of work like interior, exhaust, paint job, and some body work, but other than that it is in awesome shape.
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you dont need any of that to go down the strip though
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you dont need any of that to go down the strip though
Your right! but I kind of want to restore it back to it's original dark blue color and fix the front bumper that's all buggered up and a rust hole on the passengers rear quarter. Suppose to run it off race fuel but I really don't have the cash to do any of this, living in the **** poor state of Maine, still in the recession up here.

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