Manual disc Brakes?
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Manual disc Brakes?
Ok let me just ask a few questions about that setup to gauge what i need to do.
1. Say i do the manual disc conversion, how much better will my stopping be compared to drum and does it take away the locking up of my front wheels.
2. say i do the manual disc conversion, and down the road change to a 17 inch wheel and tire package will that still work even with bigger rims?
3.How happy are people using manual disc brakes vs power disc brakes that cost double the price.
1. Say i do the manual disc conversion, how much better will my stopping be compared to drum and does it take away the locking up of my front wheels.
2. say i do the manual disc conversion, and down the road change to a 17 inch wheel and tire package will that still work even with bigger rims?
3.How happy are people using manual disc brakes vs power disc brakes that cost double the price.
#2
1) if your durms were in great shape you may notice a slight increase in stopping distance. Disc brakes will tend to stop the car with very little to zero tendency to pull to one side, they will resist brake fade tendency better than drum and are super easy to work on.
The manual disc will still be plenty capable of locking up the fronts and the rears if its working properly. This system uses a proportioning valve that allows you to adjust bias between front and rear so that fronts lock up first or second or at the same time. I found i like the front to lock up just a weeeee bit before the rears. I do this because I found that the car will tend to still track straight on its previous course as the fronts lock up assuming i screw up during a threshold braking situation all I have to do is let off a bit and im golden. If I had set it so the rear locked up first it will tend to cause the tail of the car to side one side which then requires to me (A) reduce a bit of braking pressure and then (B) corrective steer.
2) Yes it will still work just fine with 17" wheels...but if you got the 17" wheels now you could run the SSBC force 10 xstreme kit which uses 13" rotors...probably overkill but probably a really badass setup.
3) I run the SSBC manual conversion kit with 4 piston caliper and slotted rotor for 14" wheels (avoid drilled rotors they seem to crack around the drillings) I have been using this system for the last 10 years daily driven. It installed easy and has high quality components. Everything has been working great I only have replace the pads once. I am glad I did not go assisted brakes. Pedal is stiff compared to anything modern but is not excessive by any means I like it just the way it is because it provides good feedback during emergency stopping situations because its not super assisted. However its not so stiff that it takes too much effort or too much time to reach maximum braking because you are having to use accessory muscles in your back and the backrest of the seat to force extra body weight onto the pedal...nope its just right.
-Gun
The manual disc will still be plenty capable of locking up the fronts and the rears if its working properly. This system uses a proportioning valve that allows you to adjust bias between front and rear so that fronts lock up first or second or at the same time. I found i like the front to lock up just a weeeee bit before the rears. I do this because I found that the car will tend to still track straight on its previous course as the fronts lock up assuming i screw up during a threshold braking situation all I have to do is let off a bit and im golden. If I had set it so the rear locked up first it will tend to cause the tail of the car to side one side which then requires to me (A) reduce a bit of braking pressure and then (B) corrective steer.
2) Yes it will still work just fine with 17" wheels...but if you got the 17" wheels now you could run the SSBC force 10 xstreme kit which uses 13" rotors...probably overkill but probably a really badass setup.
3) I run the SSBC manual conversion kit with 4 piston caliper and slotted rotor for 14" wheels (avoid drilled rotors they seem to crack around the drillings) I have been using this system for the last 10 years daily driven. It installed easy and has high quality components. Everything has been working great I only have replace the pads once. I am glad I did not go assisted brakes. Pedal is stiff compared to anything modern but is not excessive by any means I like it just the way it is because it provides good feedback during emergency stopping situations because its not super assisted. However its not so stiff that it takes too much effort or too much time to reach maximum braking because you are having to use accessory muscles in your back and the backrest of the seat to force extra body weight onto the pedal...nope its just right.
-Gun
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One of the first mods I did to the fastback was to snag a Granada disc setup and install it and it was night and day difference. I went with the manual setup using a master cylinder out of an F150.
Of course my old drums were far from being in optimal condition so the difference was more pronounced than what it would have been over a proper drum setup. That being said, they have performed flawlessly and even under the heaviest braking has never locked up.
Of course my old drums were far from being in optimal condition so the difference was more pronounced than what it would have been over a proper drum setup. That being said, they have performed flawlessly and even under the heaviest braking has never locked up.
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