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Old 03-18-2014, 07:46 PM   #1
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Hey all, found this ad on my local autotrader.

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We are selling our 1966 Ford Mustang hardtop which is in excellent condition. The car has been restored and upgraded over the last 13 years.
We have owned it since 2005.

The restoration included:
Candy Apple Red exterior paint
New black interior
Rebuilt front and rear suspension
Power front disk brakes, manual steering
American Racing 14" chrome wheels
C-4 Automatic transmission

302 cu. in. V-8 engine
Engine upgrades include:
Holley 600 four barrel carb
K&N chrome air cleaner
Edelbrock aluminum intake manifold
Edelbrock Performance aluminum cylinder heads
Roller rocker arms
Edebrock Performance Street Cam
New timing chain
Chrome oil pan, new fuel pump
Custom exhaust headers with dual exhaust system
Mallory electronic ignition system
New battery and cables


The car is also equipped with a Boomerang anti-theft system (not activated), rear seat fuel shield, headrests (69 Mustang) four way hazard flashers.
The AM radio and all gauges work properly
The car comes with restoration receipts going back to 1998, and a complete 1966 shop manual.

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Old 03-18-2014, 09:45 PM   #2
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asking price?

photos?
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Old 03-19-2014, 12:49 PM   #3
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sorry guys, work.

um the asking price is 17,500 for uncertified.

and photos can be seen here

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Ford/Must...howcpo=ShowCPO
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:33 AM   #4
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17 seems a bit steep

I see the cheep holly carb not a 4150 style like a street avenger

a crappy brake master cylinder

whats looks like a not impressive ignition system mallory wires maybe

the c4 setup which says its rebuilt that's good. Those are a tough trans but I prefer the 5 speed setups

Still running a crappy fixed 4 blade fan on a tired looking radiator

looks like oil / water leak from the timing chain cover

other than these mostly minor issues it looks like a good ride pics can be tough to judge off of

realistically that car is probably worth 10k
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Hey Gun, thanks for your input.

I will be seeing the car with an appraiser so I'm interested to see if his findings match yours. I will keep you updated.
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im curious how an appraiser would know what to look for unless they were a classic mustang owner as well.

It just doesn't scream "im kinda close to perfection" as you would expect for 17k

really who the hell puts on disk brakes and runs a single MC...to make matters worse its not even an original MC. If I recall correct they came with a screw on lid not a snap. So apparently they went though all that trouble to scrounge up some POS master cylinder off who knows what so they could avoid improved safety and functionality of a dual MC to save a few buck at the expense of a lot of time.

Its things like that that make me wonder what was really going on.

It just looks neglected to me and or rushed though at least under the hood so who knows what else is going on with it.

I still think its a 10k car at best
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i completely understand where you're coming from Gun and i appreciate your input. and yes, for close to 20,000 you would expect near perfection, agreed.


actually the appraiser i contacted is a classic mustang owner! so he should know what he's talking about.
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cool let us know what he says!

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Good Job Gun! You called it! I totally agree.
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+2 here, 8-10k tops. Check the lower rear quarters for rust under the paint, ask if the cowls leak....Look on Ebay for some good price comparisons of what people are paying now. Still...a very nice car.

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Right. On. The. Money.

You sir know your ****. I saw the vehicle today and though it looks and sounds great. The appraiser valued it at $11,000. Lots of bondo and body patch work especially in the rear. Not original engine obv. Console was scratched to ****. Disappointing but at the same time eye opening. Back to the drawing board. But, wow, Gun, were you ever right lol kudos.

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im curious how an appraiser would know what to look for unless they were a classic mustang owner as well.

It just doesn't scream "im kinda close to perfection" as you would expect for 17k

really who the hell puts on disk brakes and runs a single MC...to make matters worse its not even an original MC. If I recall correct they came with a screw on lid not a snap. So apparently they went though all that trouble to scrounge up some POS master cylinder off who knows what so they could avoid improved safety and functionality of a dual MC to save a few buck at the expense of a lot of time.

Its things like that that make me wonder what was really going on.

It just looks neglected to me and or rushed though at least under the hood so who knows what else is going on with it.

I still think its a 10k car at best
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I get lucky sometimes.

Would he take 10 or 11 for it?

If you are into it you can get a good runner that may not look really amazing but is solid for 6k and do a perpetual rolling restore like I do with my car. Drive it between upgrades. Get disc brakes and and dual mc, then drive it then later on suspension mods good shocks and springs, shelby drop, sway bars, global west a arms then later maybe a 5 speed swap and a set of 3.80 or rear end gears and true trac diff or maybe some engine mods or a whole engine restore...you know one thing at a time and then 5 years later you have a really awesome car that you made your own.

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Would he take 10 or 11 for it?

If you are into it you can get a good runner that may not look really amazing but is solid for 6k and do a perpetual rolling restore like I do with my car. Drive it between upgrades. Get disc brakes and and dual mc, then drive it then later on suspension mods good shocks and springs, shelby drop, sway bars, global west a arms then later maybe a 5 speed swap and a set of 3.80 or rear end gears and true trac diff or maybe some engine mods or a whole engine restore...you know one thing at a time and then 5 years later you have a really awesome car that you made your own.

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How do you guys feel about the bondo tho? I mean I think most old cars have had some body work/filler. Should I be concerned with it or not? Thanks.
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not ff you pay less than 11 for it and there is no excessive rust an no critical damage like tweaked frame and it drives and stops straight and the cowl doesnt **** water all over the floor...then no
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The finned 1985 factory 351W Econoline valve covers are a nice touch.
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I don't think Econoline vans ever had finned valve covers from the factory. What's wrong with the valve covers?
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I think the price just dropped while I was viewing the ad. I'd say that the car is probably worth about 10k as well.
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