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Old 01-11-2017, 10:13 PM
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Lightbulb 2bbl to 4bbl on 289

Ok guys, I have a 1968 Mustang with a freshly rebuilt 289. Problem is, it has a 2bbl carb and produces crappy power. I want to upgrade to a 4bbl carb. My questions are 1. Do i need to replace valves?...2. Suggestions on carb size and manufacturer? 3. Intake preferences? 4. Since I am already back into the engine, I'd like to add a mild cam for hole shots. Nothing drastic...just a better hole shot. Suggestions on cam size (lift/duration etc) and what else i gotta replace if I go up in cam size? This car is a show winner but a turd coming off stop lights against some chick in a Prius......lol
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:55 AM
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If you want to keep it fairly simple then just get a new intake manifold (this Edelbrock is a good one https://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-21213) and a 650cfm holley carb (Edelbrock carb would work also but I prefer holley).

If you want to go deeper then the next thing I would do is get headers and exhaust. This stuff can be done without taking the entire engine apart so I'd start there.

Do you know what your differential ratio is? That can make a huge difference.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:29 AM
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1. valves should be fine, but you should measure piston to valve clearance for a baseline
2. depending on your cam, 600 cfm may be too much
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:24 PM
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Changing out the intake, carb, and cam may net you some improved power/torque, but I suspect you'll still be disappointed.

Sounds to me like you might want to be looking at re-gearing the rear end. Factory gearing is often 2.79:1, which is terrible for any kind of performance.

In switching from 2.79:1 to 3.25:1 gearing in my '67, I felt more seat-of-the-pants difference than I did from changing from a tired 289 to a fresh 331.
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:15 PM
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Edelbrock offers matched kits that combine intake, carb and cam so everything works well together. Plan on a good dual exhaust too as you can't improve the intake side of an engine without addressing the exhaust. Gears are a good suggestion too.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:54 PM
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A couple of words of caution
1. If you change your cam too much then you may also need to change your torque converter.
2. How is your cooling? If you are going to heat things up you'd better be able to cool then down.
3. How are your brakes? Going fast is fun but being able to stop is more important. If you are still on factory drums then change them!
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This is the snowball effect...hope you got some bux.
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:26 AM
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You've gotten some great advice in just a few posts. Do your homework and plan out your expenses and then add at least 10%.
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10% Your projects must go much more smoothly than mine, lol.
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Old 01-13-2017, 02:54 PM
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Most don't even get finished.
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