What's the cubic inches on a .030 over 289?


06202007, 11:18 AM

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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
Or you could figure it out this way....
289 x .030 = 8.67
289 + 8.67 = 297.67 cubic inches....
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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
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ORIGINAL: fastbackford351
Or you could figure it out this way....
289 x .030 = 8.67
289 + 8.67 = 297.67 cubic inches....
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That's wrong dude. The value of 0.030" or 30over is not a multiple that you apply to the original displacement. It's the add'l diamater added to the cylinder when it is bored out.
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Do the math  4.030 (the bore) divided by 2  that number times itself  times pi, 3.1416  times 2.87 (the stroke)  times 8 (it is an 8 cylinder car, right?) and your answer is 
Remember all that crap they taught you in school  put it to work.

YES! Engine displacement equals the total volume of each cylinder times the number of cylinders. Using your formula:
4.030 (bore) divided by 2 = 2.015
2.015 x 2.015 = 4.0602
4.0602 X 3.1416 (pi) = 12.7555
12.7555 X 2.87 (stroke) = 36.6082
36.6082 X 8 (# of cyl) = 292.8658 cubic inches
Anybody wanna do the conversion to Liters?
And to the OP, my 289 is 30over (0.030") with 75K miles on the rebuild (from 1986). No problems with overheating (especially once I put a REAL temp gauge in the car)
[EDIT: I caught my formula error as you were typing your message royal68]
[EDIT, part II: I wanted to clarify that my motor was bored0.030" not 0.300"]
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06202007, 12:22 PM

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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
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ORIGINAL: 66GTKFB
Do the math  4.030 (the bore) divided by 2  that number times itself  times pi, 3.1416  times 2.87 (the stroke)  times 8 (it is an 8 cylinder car, right?) and your answer is 
Remember all that crap they taught you in school  put it to work.

making this method = 292.87
so now we have 3 answers
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06202007, 12:43 PM

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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
Well there's a couple of things going on here.
First, it doesn't matter what the displacement is if you bore the engine .3 over because youhave ruined the block!! Boring is done in hundredths of an inchso the question should be about boring 0.030". That extra zero between the decimal point and the 3 makes a big difference.
Second, the equation for the area of a circle is pi*radius*radius. Radius = diameter/2. So the correct area would be 4.030/2=2.015. So the area would be 12.756 square inches. The reason 28HopUp is close is because 2..015x2.015=4.060, which is close to the diameter of 4.030". This only gives a close answer if the bore is close to 4". Any other bore and you bet big differences in the answers.
The volume of the cylinder would then be 36.61 cubic inches and the engine would be 292.9. Others had the formula right but didn't do the math.
One liter equals 61.02374 cubic inches so divide 292.9/61.02374 and you get 4.80 liters. The 302 is 4.95 liters and is usually rounded to 5.0 liters.
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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
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One liter equals 61.02374 cubic inches so divide 292.9/61.02374 and you get 4.80 liters. The 302 is 4.95 liters and is usually rounded to 5.0 liters.

You classic guys are FAST!
Using your formula, the factory bore 289 = 4.7358 liters
And I think the OP simply put the decimal in the wrong place when he was asking about going ".30over". But you're right, that makes a big difference!
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06202007, 01:24 PM

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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
The grades are in after my initial post with the formula:
3 get an 'A'
1 gets a 'B'
1 gets a 'D'
2 get an 'F'
There was one repeat entry. As I said  'Remember all that crap they taught you in school', evidently not.
Comments Glen?
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06202007, 01:53 PM

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RE: What's the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
My "hombuilt" program says tha a 289 is
Stock = 288.52 (4.00)
4.01 = 289.97
4.02 = 291.42
4.03 = 292.87
4.04 = 294.32
By making the program, I only had to do the math once,,, but I already knew the formula from high school,,, Basic geometry,,, determining the volume of a cylinder..... X number of cylinders.... (3.14162 x (bore radius x bore radius) x stroke) x number of cylinders,,,,,
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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
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ORIGINAL: 66GTKFB
The grades are in after my initial post with the formula:
3 get an 'A'
1 gets a 'B'
1 gets a 'D'
2 get an 'F'
There was one repeat entry. As I said  'Remember all that crap they taught you in school', evidently not.
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06202007, 02:44 PM

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RE: What the cubic inches on a .30 over 289?
Why don't you give it a try? No names, just grades. Seven posters, you included, and one repeat.
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