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302 vs 351w vs EFI ?

Old 08-25-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default 302 vs 351w vs EFI ?

Im having so many second thoughts , Which would you recommend ? Im only looking for about 400hp / 425tq ...

302 stroked 347 ?

351 stroked 408?

302 EFI?
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default RE: 302 vs 351w vs EFI ?

depends on the budget 400hp can be had from a 302 pretty easily
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:28 PM
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about a 3 k budget .
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:39 PM
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On a $3k budget, a carb'd 351 or 351 stroker(373, 392, 408). You're not gonna get 400hp out of a 302 on $3k. I got about 370hp outta mine that's STREETABLE(the key if you drive your's every day) and did everything but the machining myself, and it cost me over $4k, but it's also built pretty stout. With a good EFI setup it may put out 400+hp(since I'm using a smaller carb/intake to keep it streetable, with EFI I can let it breathe better and still drive well). A carb'd 351 stroker could make 400hp rather easily for not a lot of money, but mileage will suck unless you have overdrive and good gearing
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default RE: 302 vs 351w vs EFI ?

Are you talking about an EFI 351?

I actually do have to say i care about mileage because im only 16 . So i dont have that much money .

And Its a street car ,Im not a dragstrip Cali kid.

I think 400 is too much of a stretch for me , But who knows .

what kind of times am i looking at with this kinda of a set up , I was thinking about going 302 for the mileage since the 351 is alot bigger ,

But i dont want to be shown up on the streets all the time , So my guess is 351

I feel really ... dfihshw0awjigtaeioruth9aeruthe359uahe

About this , What would you recommend in my situation?

I was planning on going T-5 speed with OD . MAnual Transmission
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default RE: 302 vs 351w vs EFI ?

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On a $3k budget, a carb'd 351 or 351 stroker(373, 392, 408). You're not gonna get 400hp out of a 302 on $3k. I got about 370hp outta mine that's STREETABLE(the key if you drive your's every day)
Ding ding ding! 400hp doesn't mean diddly to most of us if it is all on the upper end and needs 1000+ rpm to hold an idle. I'd take a 300hp streetable motor any day over a 400hp that belongs on the track.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:06 PM
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The 302 wheather EFI or carbed, mated with a T-5Z, and properly geared, (remember your car is about 500lb lighter than a fox body), will give you all you can handle on the street.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default RE: 302 vs 351w vs EFI ?

So are you saying im in over my head ? And that i should stick to 300's ?

If anywhere im happy with anything past 350 hp maybe 370

And torque as long as im holding up about 380 or so .

that should make for a good A$$ hauler . shouldnt i be doing like 12's with that ?

I went off an ET calc , But 11.5 seems too fast for that much power so im saying around 12 is right ?

So the argument still stands ... 302 EFI ? 347 stroker ? 351?
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:11 PM
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I think you have a conflict of interest. If you want milage and decent hp grab a 302 if you want hp and raw strength go bigger. Mines a daily drive and the speed limits on most streets are 45 or lower and the freeway is 65. 302 is all I want.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:12 PM
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On a $3k budget, a carb'd 351 or 351 stroker(373, 392, 408). You're not gonna get 400hp out of a 302 on $3k. I got about 370hp outta mine that's STREETABLE(the key if you drive your's every day)
Ding ding ding! 400hp doesn't mean diddly to most of us if it is all on the upper end and needs 1000+ rpm to hold an idle. I'd take a 300hp streetable motor any day over a 400hp that belongs on the track.
Absolutely. A lot of people like the idea of a 400hp 302 that they can drive, and it seems fun at first. But after the novelty wears off in 3-4months, you start to get REALLY tired of driving a cantankerous beast. 400hp from a 302 can be done in a streetable package, but it's neither cheap nor easy. That's why cubes are good for budget street builds, it's easier to get streetable power.


As far as mileage in a 351...with a modest sized carb/intake combo and good heads and a roller cam, you can get 400hp and have decent mileage, especially with a 5spd and the right diff gear. But you also have to take into account chassis and suspension. Can your car handle 400hp? You need a good clutch, a decent trans, good u joints, a good diferential, preferably a locker or LSD of some sort, or you'll just fry 1 tire all the time, and suspension that'll hold it all without wheel hopping, breaking or otherwise just not putting the power down. There's more to power than just the engine
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