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Old 11-10-2007, 04:31 PM   #1
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Hi there!

I am a newbie from Europe. I've always loved the classic'Stang (specially the '68 fastback from Bullitt) and now, maybe, with some luck, I will be able to make my dream come true of owning one. I'd like to use it for some street driving on sundays with an ocassional dragat the track.
I am studying yet, so time and specially budget are not very high, but since I'm in no rush to find my perfect "project ready" car (or morelike: a neat bodyshell), first of all I'll try to know this car as best as I can.
So far I know very little of it and that's why I registered. I hope to learn its details on care, rust, problems...and maybe one day, the joy of its drive, the sound, and the whole damn thing!

I'd like to ask a couple of questions. Since I'm very biased to the 67-68 fastback, after sayingthat, I believemy "options list" of engine and box are very wide, but I got one thing clear for sure, it has to be a V8and the gearbox a manual (preferably with only the original 4 gears) but apart from that it doesn't really matter. Since I don't know if an original auto box can be easily converted to manual, is it compulsory to buy an original "manual car" or its quite easy to adapt an auto to being a manual? Same question applied to the V8, if it's originally an auto, can it easily be made a manual? Hope my lack of knowledge doesn't bother anyone but I couldn't find any good reference book. (Btw, would you recommend me any good book or source to learn morabout the 68's history, restoring, tuning, etc?)


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Old 11-10-2007, 04:52 PM   #2
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Yosh, welcome to MF! Glad to have you aboard. Where at in Europe exactly are you from?

A 289 would be a common v8 for you to look for. It seems like alot of the classics came automatic, so keep an eye out for a manual, but they sell for alittle bit more than an automatic. You can always convert if you like..Since your new, I would suggest you find a car that is already running decently instead of finding a project car, makes it alot easier.

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Old 11-10-2007, 07:27 PM   #3
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With the price of petro now I would expect you brits to do the Fast and furious tokyo drift thing. Put a 300zx engine and gear box in it. lol
Just joking with you mate. Fuelie 5.0 for sure daily driver with a tremeck t5. If you wana stay ole school 289-302-351 with a toploader or c4 would get you the muscle car feel.
I have often thought of taking the drive train and suspension from a m5 and putting it a 67-69 fastback. You want what we have here and I want what you guys have lol.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:37 PM   #4
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His thing says he's from Madrid, Spain...

Its a good thing too, cuz Ive been over here in England for 2 months now, and I haven't seen a classic yet. The only Mustang I've seen was an 03/04 vert Cobra.
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My bad hell its all europe to us southerners. With the Beamers, Mercedes, Bentleys ,Rolls and Italian exotics.
Except for France What he hell is a Citron anyway? that as bad as Corvair! lol
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:16 PM   #6
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Except for France What he hell is a Citron anyway? that as bad as Corvair! lol
lol, not quite... they're worse!
Those and the stinkin Peugot's, the cars out here just have no freakin *****.... can't wait to get back to Texas where the muscle car is king...
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LOL Swing By Unique and pick You up a nice Shelby! lol
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:12 PM   #8
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Welcomeyosh its nice to see a BULLITT fanI'm a bullitt fan tohints the name I love the 68 bullitt so much I got one for myself a "67 BULLITT" I love classic cars there all I drive!I know alot about the bullitt mustang
if I can helpI will try mine is a 289 4vwith a c4 auto I was looking for a 4spd but did not find one you just can't find them there rare to find now a days I'm always looking for a manual parts car to convertmine!! its not cheap! if you try to buy the parts from online venders "and someparts have notbin madeyet" to find a well use top loader 4spd will cost you $800 to$1500US.it just not in my budgetso Im keeping the c4 "auto"till I find one.The c4 is a cool trans for a auto!you can shift it like a manually(1-2-3D) like you would to powershift,with out leting off the gas hammering from 1st to 2ed works nicely.

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if i had 16.5k id have a bullit clone my buddy said hed let me buy his 67 i know its not a 8 but close enough "S" code fastback 4 spd it need paint and little nic nacs but its clean Click the image to open in full size.
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Whats the name of that green? "Bullitt green" or something different?
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Almost looks like "Pacific Green", the same as my 98
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:27 AM   #13
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LOL Swing By Unique and pick You up a nice Shelby! lol
Looool! I read the news

Not into Cage's Eleanors, anyway... hated its bodykit and large wheels... hey, it almost seemed an European Tuning! Lol!

Indeed everyone wants what the other has,even Japs are nowadaysone of the best european classic cars collectors...

Thx for the welcome and hints, everyone!

Please, does somebody now a nice and available book/guide/workshop manual etc for good reference? I think I could start from there to not do so many obvious rookie questions. After I "culture" myself with that stuff, I could now better what engines and boxes cmanf was talking about[:-]

That 67 from the pics looks nice, may I have some more photos/details of her?
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:40 AM   #14
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Oh, by the way, those frenchie cars, Citroën and Peugeot, nowadays they're crap, but on the late eighties they were rocking small fast cars, (if only the market wouldn't demand mpv like cars)so they spoiled themselves. I have a race car from the good times from Citroën btw, itsa 1988Citroën AX GT, I named her AXIE. I remember going to school with the bucket seats, the rollcage, wide seat-belts, racing exhaust... it was so much fun... this year I was able to race once but, being a student, can't afford anymore. Maybe she'll have go next week...

Oh, and my daily car is a frenchie GTI too, one of the last true GTIs (small, lightweight, powerful and good handling cars), a 2004Renault Sport Clio. It's got 182bhp for 1095kgcarrying me and a full tank. A real blast for a small car. Does less than 7secs to 60mph... and boy, it handles like a dream to be a FWD,... but I was always more of a RWD so... it'll have to go as wellto make enough space for the Mustang in my garage... Lol!
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:08 PM   #15
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Nobody reads books here?

What about that car from your pal rmodel65?

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Old 11-12-2007, 03:37 PM   #16
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Lots of books are available though the first book you get should be an original or remanufactured Ford Shop Manual. They are different each year. I have both the 67 and the 68 myself. Being the original books used at Ford these are much better than the smaller Haynes manuals which I dont recommend. The book is for Cougar, Fairlane, Falcon and Mustangs. Here are a few eBay links search results for the 1967 and 1968 shop manuals. Again.. if you are going to buy one or have one this should be your FIRST book bought.
After that it depends on you.. There are books and book sets covering everything from history, wiring/electrical, mechanical, body work, painting, decoding vin and data info, vacuum schematic, body assembly, component build date manuals and so much more. Its quite easy to find a lot of this since most of it is available simply by searching the eBay Literature catagory by year (link is for 68).

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Honestly, a Chilton and Haynes manual are nice to have in the shop for a break down view of parts, but the guys on here can answer your questions better than the books will be able to.
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thx everybody for the help, will take all your good advices, starting with the shop maunal
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