408 fired 1st time...UPDATE
01-08-2008, 04:22 PM
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408 fired 1st time...UPDATE
i had a bad night.
my Falcon GT went back to the engine builder for long overduefirst firing of the new 408.
everything looked good. tighten a couple of loose terminals and push the button.
fired straight away, then stopped with a large bang that shook the whole caras soon as the revs brought up the first time. WTF????
turns out that when I got the custom headers made, the exhaust guy had to pull the starter and in the processtook out the starter spacer that I had made to ensure the correct meshing of teeth from starter to ring gear.
MORON forgot to put it back. 2nd MORON (me) didnt check. [sm=icon_beat.gif]
The starter and flywheel jammed together. when the revs came up, starter didnt appreciate it so jammed and hard enough to make a mess.
results
grabbed a bearing - motor out again
busted 3 teeth clean off the flywheel - time for a chromoly one
starter - may or may not have survived. it was a brand new hi-torque one
damage bill around $2k Aus.[sm=boohoo.gif]
my Falcon GT went back to the engine builder for long overduefirst firing of the new 408.
everything looked good. tighten a couple of loose terminals and push the button.
fired straight away, then stopped with a large bang that shook the whole caras soon as the revs brought up the first time. WTF????
turns out that when I got the custom headers made, the exhaust guy had to pull the starter and in the processtook out the starter spacer that I had made to ensure the correct meshing of teeth from starter to ring gear.
MORON forgot to put it back. 2nd MORON (me) didnt check. [sm=icon_beat.gif]
The starter and flywheel jammed together. when the revs came up, starter didnt appreciate it so jammed and hard enough to make a mess.
results
grabbed a bearing - motor out again
busted 3 teeth clean off the flywheel - time for a chromoly one
starter - may or may not have survived. it was a brand new hi-torque one
damage bill around $2k Aus.[sm=boohoo.gif]
01-08-2008, 04:28 PM
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RE: 408 fired 1st time...then stopped
Hi
Oh what a ****.........
Never trust anybody check twice to get shure, check again to forget nothing......
I have had an rebuild engine from Caddilac for my 84. Build in, started it, runs 2 Mins then over...
The parts came out of the oilpan. The idiots lost a 13mm Bolt and it falls in a cylinder on the pistons..... Big mess, high cost and nobody pays.......
Drink a beer (or what you called so......sorry, I´m a German) and luck that the first gives you part of the money back
Oh what a ****.........
Never trust anybody check twice to get shure, check again to forget nothing......
I have had an rebuild engine from Caddilac for my 84. Build in, started it, runs 2 Mins then over...
The parts came out of the oilpan. The idiots lost a 13mm Bolt and it falls in a cylinder on the pistons..... Big mess, high cost and nobody pays.......
Drink a beer (or what you called so......sorry, I´m a German) and luck that the first gives you part of the money back
01-08-2008, 04:29 PM
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RE: 408 fired 1st time...then stopped
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] oh nooooo! sorry to hear that man, things will get goin right and it'll all be worth it. i hate having other people do work but i dont know how to do 60 percent of the stuff[:@]
] oh nooooo! sorry to hear that man, things will get goin right and it'll all be worth it. i hate having other people do work but i dont know how to do 60 percent of the stuff[:@]
01-08-2008, 05:56 PM
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RE: 408 fired 1st time...then stopped
I bet that starter was making some juice!!
My dad had a car that this happened on once, starter stayed engaged for a two mile trip. When he got to work the starter virtually exploded. At some point during the trip the starter (acting as a generator) burnt the battery cable in half....
That must really suck,,,, [:@]
My dad had a car that this happened on once, starter stayed engaged for a two mile trip. When he got to work the starter virtually exploded. At some point during the trip the starter (acting as a generator) burnt the battery cable in half....
That must really suck,,,, [:@]
01-08-2008, 06:06 PM
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RE: 408 fired 1st time...then stopped
im so bummed at the moment[sm=headbang.gif]
i cant beleive the starter is so strong to not only stop the engine but push the crank far enough to the side to pinch a bearing like that. the smallest shaft is the starter...it should have bent first!!!!
the exhaust guy has just started his own business after working for bigger companies. he's a fellow racer and generally does good work at very reasonable prices. it was acase of trying to help him out andget a good deal at the same time.
i know he cant pay for the damage but i still feel like sending a couple of associates with lots of ink and questionable backgrounds around to pay him a visit...maybe a couple of slaps with a bat would ensure he doesnt do this to anyone else[sm=chairshot.gif][sm=shootshoot.gif]
i cant beleive the starter is so strong to not only stop the engine but push the crank far enough to the side to pinch a bearing like that. the smallest shaft is the starter...it should have bent first!!!!
the exhaust guy has just started his own business after working for bigger companies. he's a fellow racer and generally does good work at very reasonable prices. it was acase of trying to help him out andget a good deal at the same time.
i know he cant pay for the damage but i still feel like sending a couple of associates with lots of ink and questionable backgrounds around to pay him a visit...maybe a couple of slaps with a bat would ensure he doesnt do this to anyone else[sm=chairshot.gif][sm=shootshoot.gif]
01-08-2008, 06:37 PM
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RE: 408 fired 1st time...then stopped
Oh sh*t,,, I missed the part about the bearing getting screwed and the 2K part.....
It sucked before,,, now there are not words to express the suck...
I know you have a weak feeling in the pit of your stomach,,,, man I would be sick.
The only bright side of this story is that no one died....
It sucked before,,, now there are not words to express the suck...
I know you have a weak feeling in the pit of your stomach,,,, man I would be sick.
The only bright side of this story is that no one died....
01-08-2008, 07:02 PM
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RE: 408 fired 1st time...then stopped
ORIGINAL: Aussie66Fastback
YET
ORIGINAL: JMD
The only bright side of this story is that no one died....
The only bright side of this story is that no one died....
I am sure that you can't even think about laughing today but you made me laugh, I have to say that I wasn't expecting that response but in retrospectI guess I should have....