What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
#11
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
Thanks for the input, all.
There is a guy at Kragen Auto Parts locally that I really feel is a good mechanic...
I was talking to him about this and he felt that I probably shouldn't fool with the Tstat right now... He thought that the temp was fine.
He knows old cars but I dont think he knows much about stroker kits...
I don't know what to do... I was out cruising today and it was running about 170-5.
At any rate, If you were to replace your Tstat, would you get a new gasket in there or use the old one? (I replaced the Thermostat housing gasket about 6 months ago/1500 miles)
There is a guy at Kragen Auto Parts locally that I really feel is a good mechanic...
I was talking to him about this and he felt that I probably shouldn't fool with the Tstat right now... He thought that the temp was fine.
He knows old cars but I dont think he knows much about stroker kits...
I don't know what to do... I was out cruising today and it was running about 170-5.
At any rate, If you were to replace your Tstat, would you get a new gasket in there or use the old one? (I replaced the Thermostat housing gasket about 6 months ago/1500 miles)
#12
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
I wouldn't trust 99% of Kragen employees for auto advice. Sorry to anyone that actually works there, but for the most part Kragen, AutoZone, etc employees don't know jack about cars, they just think they do.
There is no reason not to swap to the 180 t-stat now. 170 is way too cold for that engine, and is actually bad for it long-term. Personally, I'd put a 195 high-flow unit in, but a standard 180 will probably be ok too.
And yes, you do need a new gasket. 70 cents isn't worth a possible leak.
There is no reason not to swap to the 180 t-stat now. 170 is way too cold for that engine, and is actually bad for it long-term. Personally, I'd put a 195 high-flow unit in, but a standard 180 will probably be ok too.
And yes, you do need a new gasket. 70 cents isn't worth a possible leak.
#13
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
ORIGINAL: Starfury
180 is too cold for these engines. Running the engine that cold is creating a lot of quench in the combustion chamber increasing the amount of carbon buildup. The factory t-stat was a 192/195 for a reason. 190-210 is good operating temp.
180 is too cold for these engines. Running the engine that cold is creating a lot of quench in the combustion chamber increasing the amount of carbon buildup. The factory t-stat was a 192/195 for a reason. 190-210 is good operating temp.
Jeff
#14
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
Thanks guys.
I am going to put in a 180 Tstat. The guy at Kragen that I have relied on has walked me through quite a few small projects with no trouble and claims to have spent 15 years as a mechanic. That is why I have sought out advice from him. But like I said, I dont think he has much, if any experience with stroker engines.
Tad, you've got a stroker and the consensus here agrees with you that it should be running hotter. I am afraid that if I put in a Tstat over 180, come Summer, my car is going to be TOO hot. So the different size tstat will still fit in the same sized housing, right?
While I am working through this, one other question comes to mind... I have been planning on changing my oil from 10W-30 Mobil 1 to something heavier... Should I see how that affects my operating temp before swapping the Tstat or will that be irrelevant?
Thanks for all your help.
I am going to put in a 180 Tstat. The guy at Kragen that I have relied on has walked me through quite a few small projects with no trouble and claims to have spent 15 years as a mechanic. That is why I have sought out advice from him. But like I said, I dont think he has much, if any experience with stroker engines.
Tad, you've got a stroker and the consensus here agrees with you that it should be running hotter. I am afraid that if I put in a Tstat over 180, come Summer, my car is going to be TOO hot. So the different size tstat will still fit in the same sized housing, right?
While I am working through this, one other question comes to mind... I have been planning on changing my oil from 10W-30 Mobil 1 to something heavier... Should I see how that affects my operating temp before swapping the Tstat or will that be irrelevant?
Thanks for all your help.
#15
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
Technically, the thermostat should be the same "size", it will just operate at a higher temperature. So yes, a 180* will work just fine (assuming it is for a small block ford application).
I would think the oil pressure would be affected more than engine temp with the viscosity change, I wouldn't worry about it affecting your temps.
I would think the oil pressure would be affected more than engine temp with the viscosity change, I wouldn't worry about it affecting your temps.
#16
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
Running a colder t-stat isn't going to prevent the car from overheating. Assuming the cooling system is adequate for the engine, all the t-stat does is limit the minimum operating temperature of the engine. I have a high-flow 195 in mine and it runs 195-205 most of the time, barely touching on 210 at idle in traffic.
#17
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
One more question.... Starfury you've got me wondering about the high-flow Tstat... Does it just open wider? Any brand name recommendations for this change?
Just out of curiousity, what sort of climate do you live in/drive your stang? I am only asking because i am in the bay area (CA) and my car is rarely driven in temps above 80 or below 60. So maybe I should think about going with the high-flow 195 you are talkikng about..........
Thanks for your help.
Just out of curiousity, what sort of climate do you live in/drive your stang? I am only asking because i am in the bay area (CA) and my car is rarely driven in temps above 80 or below 60. So maybe I should think about going with the high-flow 195 you are talkikng about..........
Thanks for your help.
#19
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
I live in San Luis Obispo, so generally 60-85F,but I've driven my car in Stockton in 110F heat with no problems.
The high-flow t-stats flow much better than a standard unit, and they tend to be better quality, meaning the open when they're supposed to. I had a standard 195 in my car at one point and I wasn't getting anywhere near enough cooling power with it. The car would run at 210 on the freeway and creep up in traffic. I initially dumped a high-flow165 in it, but it wouldn't ever get above 180*(which I assume is the point where it was fully open). The high flow 195 I have in it works great.
The high-flow t-stats flow much better than a standard unit, and they tend to be better quality, meaning the open when they're supposed to. I had a standard 195 in my car at one point and I wasn't getting anywhere near enough cooling power with it. The car would run at 210 on the freeway and creep up in traffic. I initially dumped a high-flow165 in it, but it wouldn't ever get above 180*(which I assume is the point where it was fully open). The high flow 195 I have in it works great.
#20
RE: What TEMP is your car running at? How 'bout Oil Pressure?
This is great stuff, guys.
Obviously I need to loosen up with my concerns about the heat of my engine. I feel like its been ingrained in me to be concerned about overheating. But clearly my cooling system is doing its job, so I just need to give the engine the freedom to warm up to its ideal operating temp.
...I know my questions are endless but ....I see that Year One has a high flow "Be Cool" thermostat ... 195* for $21.95. I wonder if I could find this at a local auto parts joint or if I need to order it up...
Obviously I need to loosen up with my concerns about the heat of my engine. I feel like its been ingrained in me to be concerned about overheating. But clearly my cooling system is doing its job, so I just need to give the engine the freedom to warm up to its ideal operating temp.
...I know my questions are endless but ....I see that Year One has a high flow "Be Cool" thermostat ... 195* for $21.95. I wonder if I could find this at a local auto parts joint or if I need to order it up...