Stock Suspension Hadling Question
#1
Stock Suspension Hadling Question
How does a 67 handle with stock suspension??
My Aunt actually had a 67 fasback and my father claimsthat the handling was horrible. However,this was in the late seventies/early eighties and my guess is that the suspension might have already been a worn out. On the other hand, looking at the stock suspension does not really reassure me that these cars ever handled well.
So, any opinions??
My Aunt actually had a 67 fasback and my father claimsthat the handling was horrible. However,this was in the late seventies/early eighties and my guess is that the suspension might have already been a worn out. On the other hand, looking at the stock suspension does not really reassure me that these cars ever handled well.
So, any opinions??
#2
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
I know on my 66 notch back the suspension had been all redone about stock so it was new and in good working order...but
The handling was crap and was not adequate to fit the local road conditions and my driving style.
went with npd street bandit handling kit and some global west stuff and its awesome now.
-Gun
The handling was crap and was not adequate to fit the local road conditions and my driving style.
went with npd street bandit handling kit and some global west stuff and its awesome now.
-Gun
#3
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
It all depends what you want and expect out of the car. It will not compare to any modern vehicle you're accustomed to.
If you want to drive the car "hard" and expect it to perform, spend the money on TCPs front coilover conversion and switch the car over to a R&P steering system.
If this is just going to be a Sunday afternoon parade type car, put a new stock suspension back on it with roller spring perches for an okay ride.
If you expect to go fast, plan on stopping faster. Disc brakes at all 4 corners is recommended.
Good Luck!
Dave
If you want to drive the car "hard" and expect it to perform, spend the money on TCPs front coilover conversion and switch the car over to a R&P steering system.
If this is just going to be a Sunday afternoon parade type car, put a new stock suspension back on it with roller spring perches for an okay ride.
If you expect to go fast, plan on stopping faster. Disc brakes at all 4 corners is recommended.
Good Luck!
Dave
#4
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
Handling? Are you serious?Stangs from the 60's and the word handling don't even belong in the same sentence unless modified with modern parts. First generation mustangs were built on the Falcon chasis. Just be happy to go in a straight line fast and turn only when neccessary.........
#5
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
It depends on how it's set up. Factory suspension from the 60's had several inherant design flaws, ranging from incorrect suspension geometry, to poor alignment settings, to scrawny(useless) sway bars. Putting modern suspension on a Classic isn't necessary to get good handling, but if you want high performance handling that'll compete with current sports cars, then go aftermarket.
#6
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
All that said, a Shelby drop, performance springs,larger sway bar,slight lowering job, and a good alignment should make the car handle reasonably well for a 40yr old vehicle. There are plenty of people that race their classics with the stock style suspension setup.
#7
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
ORIGINAL: Starfury
All that said, a Shelby drop, performance springs,larger sway bar,slight lowering job, and a good alignment should make the car handle reasonably well for a 40yr old vehicle. There are plenty of people that race their classics with the stock style suspension setup.
All that said, a Shelby drop, performance springs,larger sway bar,slight lowering job, and a good alignment should make the car handle reasonably well for a 40yr old vehicle. There are plenty of people that race their classics with the stock style suspension setup.
Add shocks and tires to that mix and you're ready for the skid pad.
#9
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
+1 69thunder on the 60s stangs and you could probably say that about all American cars of the era.
the good news is you can do something about it and IMO you dont have to go as far as coilover fronts and R&P steering to get a big improvement. That said, if its a project in pieces and you have the $$$[8D]
the good news is you can do something about it and IMO you dont have to go as far as coilover fronts and R&P steering to get a big improvement. That said, if its a project in pieces and you have the $$$[8D]
#10
RE: Stock Suspension Hadling Question
Mustangs can be made to handle just fine with just bolt-on improvements as the history shows. Even antiquated technology, when it's the best, is enough to make your ***** climb into your throat.
The legendary Parnelli Jones won five times in 1970 wheeling the Bud Moore-prepped Boss 302 on his way to contributing to Ford's manufacturer title in 1970.
"Taming the Twisties In 1965, Carroll Shelby, responding to Ford’s challenge to build a winning road racing program, introduced the Mustang GT-350 – a stripped down Mustang 2+2 with modified suspension, shocks, steering, brakes and Ford 289-cubic-inch V-8s – for Sports Car Club of America competition. Jerry Titus, Bob Johnson and Mark Donohue drove GT-350s to national titles in 1965, and the GT-350 went on to win SCCA B-Production national championships for three straight years. 1966 was the inaugural year for the SCCA Trans-Am series, and Mustangs found a new racing home. Jerry Titus, in a Shelby-prepared Mustang, won the season finale at Riverside. All told, Mustang racers won four of the seven series races and Ford won the manufacturers’ championship. In the 1967 Trans-Am series, Titus chalked up four more victories in a Shelby Mustang, won the drivers’ title and Ford took a second straight manufacturers’ championship. Mustang also won another SCCA B-Production road-racing title. In 1968, while singer Wilson Pickett was asking Mustang Sally to "slow your Mustang down," Ford introduced the 428 Mustang Cobra Jet. To performance enthusiasts, 1969 was dominated by the hottest Mustangs ever — 428 Mach 1, Boss 429 and Boss 302. Three modified examples of this fearsome threesome were taken to the Bonneville Salt Flats in search of speed records. Driven by Mickey Thompson, Danny Ongais, Ray Brock and Bob Ottum, they collected 295 United States Auto Club-certified records, including a 24-hour run on a 10-mile course at an average speed of 157 miles an hour. Ford backed two Trans-Am teams in 1969: Carroll Shelby fielded drivers Peter Revson and Horst Kwech, while Bud Moore signed on Parnelli Jones and George Follmer. The teams combined for four victories and were tasting victory at mid-season before experiencing a string of accidents. In 1970, Bud Moore’s team raced against one of the most competitive Trans-Am fields of all time with six factory teams. Jones and Follmer fulfilled the promise of a year earlier by winning six races and the manufacturers’ championship as Jones took the drivers’ title."
The Lime Rock Shelby Mustang track record holder:"On September 5, 2000, Chuck Bentley, owner of the #137 car pictured here, blew the crowd away (and the rest of the competition for that matter) by setting a new Mustang/Shelby GT 350 track record with a 00.59.650, not only winning the class, but coming in first overall... Ahead of the Corvettes, Camaros, Porsches, and Panteras.
Not bad for a Falcon.
The Lime Rock Shelby Mustang track record holder: On Sept. 5, 2000, Chuck Bentley, owner of the #137 car pictured here, blew the crowd away (and the rest of the competition, for that matter) by setting a new Mustang/Shelby GT350 track record with a 00.59.650, not only winning the class, but also coming in first overall... ahead of the Corvettes, Camaros, Porsches, and Panteras.
The legendary Parnelli Jones won five times in 1970 wheeling the Bud Moore-prepped Boss 302 on his way to contributing to Ford's manufacturer title in 1970.
"Taming the Twisties In 1965, Carroll Shelby, responding to Ford’s challenge to build a winning road racing program, introduced the Mustang GT-350 – a stripped down Mustang 2+2 with modified suspension, shocks, steering, brakes and Ford 289-cubic-inch V-8s – for Sports Car Club of America competition. Jerry Titus, Bob Johnson and Mark Donohue drove GT-350s to national titles in 1965, and the GT-350 went on to win SCCA B-Production national championships for three straight years. 1966 was the inaugural year for the SCCA Trans-Am series, and Mustangs found a new racing home. Jerry Titus, in a Shelby-prepared Mustang, won the season finale at Riverside. All told, Mustang racers won four of the seven series races and Ford won the manufacturers’ championship. In the 1967 Trans-Am series, Titus chalked up four more victories in a Shelby Mustang, won the drivers’ title and Ford took a second straight manufacturers’ championship. Mustang also won another SCCA B-Production road-racing title. In 1968, while singer Wilson Pickett was asking Mustang Sally to "slow your Mustang down," Ford introduced the 428 Mustang Cobra Jet. To performance enthusiasts, 1969 was dominated by the hottest Mustangs ever — 428 Mach 1, Boss 429 and Boss 302. Three modified examples of this fearsome threesome were taken to the Bonneville Salt Flats in search of speed records. Driven by Mickey Thompson, Danny Ongais, Ray Brock and Bob Ottum, they collected 295 United States Auto Club-certified records, including a 24-hour run on a 10-mile course at an average speed of 157 miles an hour. Ford backed two Trans-Am teams in 1969: Carroll Shelby fielded drivers Peter Revson and Horst Kwech, while Bud Moore signed on Parnelli Jones and George Follmer. The teams combined for four victories and were tasting victory at mid-season before experiencing a string of accidents. In 1970, Bud Moore’s team raced against one of the most competitive Trans-Am fields of all time with six factory teams. Jones and Follmer fulfilled the promise of a year earlier by winning six races and the manufacturers’ championship as Jones took the drivers’ title."
The Lime Rock Shelby Mustang track record holder:"On September 5, 2000, Chuck Bentley, owner of the #137 car pictured here, blew the crowd away (and the rest of the competition for that matter) by setting a new Mustang/Shelby GT 350 track record with a 00.59.650, not only winning the class, but coming in first overall... Ahead of the Corvettes, Camaros, Porsches, and Panteras.
Not bad for a Falcon.
The Lime Rock Shelby Mustang track record holder: On Sept. 5, 2000, Chuck Bentley, owner of the #137 car pictured here, blew the crowd away (and the rest of the competition, for that matter) by setting a new Mustang/Shelby GT350 track record with a 00.59.650, not only winning the class, but also coming in first overall... ahead of the Corvettes, Camaros, Porsches, and Panteras.