An upgraded 1964 V6 to V8
08-08-2009, 04:45 PM
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According to wikipedia
Shipping weight, approximately 2,570 pounds (1,170 kg) with the straight six-cylinder engine, was also similar to the Falcon. A fully-equipped V8 model weighed approximately 3,000 pounds (1,400 kg).
The 289 cu in (4.7 L) Windsor was also introduced in 1963. Bore was expanded to 4.0 in (102 mm), becoming the standard bore for most factory Windsor engines. The 289 weighed 506 lb (230 kg).
Thriftpower Six Also called Falcon SixProduction 1960 - 1984Dry weight 385 lb
The car I am looking has the 289 V8 Automatic in it with the drum brakes and 4 lug tires. It was upgraded from the I6 3 speed manual.
Does anybody know the weight of a auto vs manual C4 transmission?
Thanks.
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08-08-2009, 04:56 PM
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You either have to go back to the I6, or replace all the front and rear running gear. The little 9" brakes will barely stop a V8, and they little 7" rear will probably blow to bits the first time you lay rubber.
08-08-2009, 04:58 PM
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08-08-2009, 05:11 PM
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I will have to disagree on one point, I belive that a 6 cylinder car properly upgraded to a V8 is worth more than a 6 cylinder car. The work and expense to do the upgrade makes it worth the extra money. The I6 cars are not that easy to sell. Also the I6 cars are usually in much better condition because they have not been hotrodded and are just begging to be upgraded.
My 67 gets more attention at car shows then most V8 mustangs do at the same show.
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08-08-2009, 05:16 PM
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Could be. The brakes, transmission, and rear axle were much heavier in the V8. Most people could lift the 2.77 manual trans with one hand.
You either have to go back to the I6, or replace all the front and rear running gear. The little 9" brakes will barely stop a V8, and they little 7" rear will probably blow to bits the first time you lay rubber.
You either have to go back to the I6, or replace all the front and rear running gear. The little 9" brakes will barely stop a V8, and they little 7" rear will probably blow to bits the first time you lay rubber.
But since the rear gears wern't replaced...still have that problem.
Appreciate the info.
08-08-2009, 05:57 PM
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But if just the engine was replaced, with the extra ~75-100 pounds, plus whatever the difference is between the auto and manual transmission and the radiator, would the brakes be fine?
But since the rear gears wern't replaced...still have that problem.
Appreciate the info.
But since the rear gears wern't replaced...still have that problem.
Appreciate the info.
08-09-2009, 12:26 AM
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Mine use to be a inline 6 car and i don't care what its worth.What a car is worth and what a buyer will pay or always different.Changing everything over from a inline 6 to v8 can be a pain and get pricey fast so its cheaper to buy a v8 car if you want a v8 car.
08-09-2009, 07:59 AM
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Over half of the people I've talked to wouldn't do it again.
08-09-2009, 08:58 AM
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And I've talked to many over the last 10 years who've done the 6 to 8 swap and love it. Unless you've got a concours I6 with super low miles on it, the originality value is not that high anyway. For a hobby that still likes to modify cars, (i.e., the hard nose concours guys close their ears) buying a 6 and swapping in an 8 along with the requisite safety features such as brakes, steering and suspension is an economical way to get the car you want.
If you compared the cost of buying a 6 car and doing all the needed motor, brakes, steering and suspension upgrades, versus buying a unrestored C or A code car and overhauling the existing motor, brakes, steering and suspension, the cost delta would be favorable for someone who plans on keeping the car and driving it.
My 5.0 gets 23 mpg with a 5 speed. I consider that favorable gas mileage wise to a 6 cylinder.
If you compared the cost of buying a 6 car and doing all the needed motor, brakes, steering and suspension upgrades, versus buying a unrestored C or A code car and overhauling the existing motor, brakes, steering and suspension, the cost delta would be favorable for someone who plans on keeping the car and driving it.
My 5.0 gets 23 mpg with a 5 speed. I consider that favorable gas mileage wise to a 6 cylinder.