auto to t5
01-01-2011, 11:02 PM
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I did both using a king cobra clutch.
Both work okay
I ended up with the hydraulic setup
The pros and cons as I see are as follow.
Cable
Pros:
No fluid to leak out no worries about use of proper lines or bleeding the system.
Some claim better feel I personally didn't notice this with the king cobra clutch.
Smooth operation
Cons:
Requires adjustment over time,
very difficult to install when you get to the part that requires you to beat the crap out of the underside of the cowl under the dash so that the pedal quadrant will clear (needs a 1/4" more space) The hard part is swinging a hammer hard enough (on your back with like 4" of movement freedom) to bend the metal. I had to use a torch and get it red then hit it...not fun....not cool.
Cable is hard to route away from headers even with shorty headers.
Requires slightly more pedal effort than hydraulic setup
Places a huge amount of stress on the firewall even with the wide cable to firewall mounting block you can see the firewall flex when the pedal is pressed.
Hydraulic:
pros:
easy to install and route lines, no stress on firewall, no adjustments needed, works with headers of any kind. slightly less pedal effort, smooth operation.
Cons: may have issues if you use a vac brake booster (not real sure but there maybe fitment issues), gotta bleed the system of air which may prove slightly difficult, need to scare up some kind of fluid holder ( the ones from a S-10 work well)
Thats my thoughts
As for the pedal get the mustang Steve bearing supported system its awesome and easy to install if you go the hydraulic route.
-Gun
Both work okay
I ended up with the hydraulic setup
The pros and cons as I see are as follow.
Cable
Pros:
No fluid to leak out no worries about use of proper lines or bleeding the system.
Some claim better feel I personally didn't notice this with the king cobra clutch.
Smooth operation
Cons:
Requires adjustment over time,
very difficult to install when you get to the part that requires you to beat the crap out of the underside of the cowl under the dash so that the pedal quadrant will clear (needs a 1/4" more space) The hard part is swinging a hammer hard enough (on your back with like 4" of movement freedom) to bend the metal. I had to use a torch and get it red then hit it...not fun....not cool.
Cable is hard to route away from headers even with shorty headers.
Requires slightly more pedal effort than hydraulic setup
Places a huge amount of stress on the firewall even with the wide cable to firewall mounting block you can see the firewall flex when the pedal is pressed.
Hydraulic:
pros:
easy to install and route lines, no stress on firewall, no adjustments needed, works with headers of any kind. slightly less pedal effort, smooth operation.
Cons: may have issues if you use a vac brake booster (not real sure but there maybe fitment issues), gotta bleed the system of air which may prove slightly difficult, need to scare up some kind of fluid holder ( the ones from a S-10 work well)
Thats my thoughts
As for the pedal get the mustang Steve bearing supported system its awesome and easy to install if you go the hydraulic route.
-Gun
01-01-2011, 11:17 PM
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01-03-2011, 12:03 AM
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01-04-2011, 12:06 AM
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Having done both the cable and oem style I will go oem on every one I do from now on. The only parts required other than the oem parts will be a fulcrum and block if you are using a T5 bell housing. If you are using the stock bell housing you don't need any extra parts other than the stock parts. You don't have to modify anything. Fitment and cable routing don't even come up as an issue. OEM all the way. I have never done a hydraulic set up due to the cost.