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67 Fastback - Daily Driver/Rolling Restoration

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Old 09-15-2011, 03:12 PM   #1
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I'll start with a warning:
It is a daily driver, updates will be slow to come by.

I also would like to state my goals with this car and I'm open to suggestions as you will see I'm undecided in a lot of major things, so if you can give advice I will certainly welcome it.

Here is what my car looks like as of today

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It has rust issues in both the rear quarters behind the wheels, driver side door and driver side fender, also behind the wheel. This will be my daily / main car. I bought this car because I love the style, not to be sitting in a garage %99 percent of the time. Since it is a daily driver I plan on upgrading the basic safety aspects of the car first. I have ordered the Wilwoods 12" drilled and slotted brake kit. People have told me to avoid the drilled rotors because as is stated in the Wilwood website " A drilled rotor provides the same type of benefit, but is more susceptible to cracking under severe usage; however, for street and occasional light duty track use, they will work fine". Im more interested in the latter part since as I said it is a daily driver and I'm more interested in looks (I hope that didnt turn some of you off) I had to get bigger wheels because the rotors would not fit with the Cragars I have on now. So I got these 17x8" wheels

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Since I may not be the only driver the Wilwood Tech suggested i get the 7/8" bore master cylinder. Im having some electrical gremlins and instead of trying to bandaid the problems I would like to slowly transfer the electrical harness to an ISIS system. I talked to Jay from ISIS and he said that it was possible to transfer the basic functions to an ISIS over weekend projects (ie. tail lights one weekend head lights another and so on)
So that's what being done in the immediate future. now come the questions and where I'm completely open to suggestions.
Since it is a daily driver my main concern is MPG but I would ideally like to be in the 400HP range and have 20+ MPG. Im not sure any of the Ford pushrod engines get me there (please correct me if I'm wrong). The new Coyote engine can get me there but I would have to do so by messing around with the shock towers (but I really like this engine). I really dislike the MII suspension (again aesthetics) and Grigg's is a little steep in the wallet. I'm kinda leaning towards the Struts from Gateway Performance but again I have to notch the towers. Another option could be an LSx motor. I hear they are smaller and MAY fit without having to touch the towers at all (can anyone confirm?). In the rear I'm leaning towards the g-Bar TCP system.

Kinda long winded so I'll keep the rest for another time. Please do chip in with your opinions.

Thanks
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:37 PM   #2
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Kind of off-topic, but all I'm getting here for pictures are those little red X thingies.

But I think I know where they came from, so I'll look over there for now.


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A little 302 with about 8 lbs of boost would do the job. The best I can tell the Twin Turbo car gets around 22 MPG and I'm still tweaking the A/F. Pictures are not there.
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let me know if that fixed it. I dont get the insert image toolbox so im typing in the code for it
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Now there up.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:37 PM   #6
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Good luck. I have a non-rolling resto going.

Share some more of your ideas. It's always nice to hear of other people's tastes. Disc brakes are a must for these old cars in my opinion.
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People have told me to avoid the drilled rotors because as is stated in the Wilwood website " A drilled rotor provides the same type of benefit, but is more susceptible to cracking under severe usage; however, for street and occasional light duty track use, they will work fine". Im more interested in the latter part since as I said it is a daily driver and I'm more interested in looks (I hope that didnt turn some of you off)
It'll depend on how hard you use the brakes, more specifically how hot you get them. Most street driving and autocrossing is not that hard. Open tracking and hillclimb/hard driving in the mountains is or can be.


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I had to get bigger wheels because the rotors would not fit with the Cragars I have on now. So I got these 17x8" wheels
That's a good thing in and of itself, as there is very little worth buying for a performance-oriented 3000# or heavier car in 15" or smaller tires short of maybe an R-compound or two.


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Are you wanting to keep a carb or go fuel injection? Both can get good mpgs if tuned properly, but IMO I would rather have the reliability of EFI for my daily driver, but thats just me.
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I thought I was the only one that used the term "rolling restoration". I make sure that when I start a project on Friday night that hopefully I will be turning the last bolt by Sunday night so that I will be able to drive to work on Monday.

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A 331 or 347 with good heads and a custom cam will make well into the 400hp range and still get over 20mpg on the highway with a 5 speed. Just gotta be willing to spend the money.
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I agree with the above posts. If you are looking for horsepower and fuel economy you might want to look into the 6 speed transmissions and match it to the gearing in the rearend. You can get a high horsepower engine but to really get the gas mileage you need a 5-6 speed.

I do not know if you're looking to have a stick or automatic though. TCI has a very expensive 6 speed automatic but I'd recommend a gear vendors which is cheaper up front and not something you have to heavily modify.

As for the front suspension have you looked at the TCP front suspension? I know I was looking at it for my 69 sportroof, but have decided to save up for the Griggs suspension, even if it is expensive.

My brother has the Baer 14" 6 piston drilled and slotted on his 07 shelby and he really loves them.

On a side note if this is your daily driver who do you have for insurance? I cannot find anyone that will talk to me about insuring my 69 as a daily.
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Are you wanting to keep a carb or go fuel injection? Both can get good mpgs if tuned properly, but IMO I would rather have the reliability of EFI for my daily driver, but thats just me.
I currently have a carb and it is well tuned but I cant reap any benefits 'cause of my 3 speed, that car is loud on the highway were most of my driving is done.
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I make sure that when I start a project on Friday night that hopefully I will be turning the last bolt by Sunday night so that I will be able to drive to work on Monday
I know what you mean. once i was changing my carb and everything went ok, except when i tried to turn it on.....my fuel pump had died and i couldnt figure it out. that was not a good couple of days, had to call out
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A 331 or 347 with good heads and a custom cam will make well into the 400hp range and still get over 20mpg on the highway with a 5 speed. Just gotta be willing to spend the money.
I really hope so, I would like to keep it Ford and preferably not mess with the shock towers either

Thanks for the tips. I am leaning for the 302 with an EFI
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On a side note if this is your daily driver who do you have for insurance? I cannot find anyone that will talk to me about insuring my 69 as a daily.
well, because it is a daily i was able to insure it with a couple of the major companies ( i switched a few years back with no problems) currently its GEICO but i plan to switch to one that deals with classics.
and i like to keep it manual
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I think Hagerty will insure for a daily.
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Can some one tell me the difference between these 2? i dont understand the price difference

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The first kit has many small LED's. The second kit has three rows of large, surrounded by small.

I would take a look at these as Mustang Project is known to have the best LED's as well as great customer service:

http://mustangproject.com/ProductDis...8-adeedd738c56
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I'm not too crazy about sequentials, which is why i linked those but if the kit you mention could be programmed not to do that then i definitely get those. I'll give them a call

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I agree with the above posts. If you are looking for horsepower and fuel economy you might want to look into the 6 speed transmissions and match it to the gearing in the rearend. You can get a high horsepower engine but to really get the gas mileage you need a 5-6 speed.

I do not know if you're looking to have a stick or automatic though. TCI has a very expensive 6 speed automatic but I'd recommend a gear vendors which is cheaper up front and not something you have to heavily modify.

As for the front suspension have you looked at the TCP front suspension? I know I was looking at it for my 69 sportroof, but have decided to save up for the Griggs suspension, even if it is expensive.

My brother has the Baer 14" 6 piston drilled and slotted on his 07 shelby and he really loves them.

On a side note if this is your daily driver who do you have for insurance? I cannot find anyone that will talk to me about insuring my 69 as a daily.

Geico is who I use to insure my 68 as a regular vehicle. $800 in NYC with no restrictions and even bumped up a few things since if I hit anything it will be a Merc or BMW. They wont do theft though which sucks. Progressive would but it add $1000 a year and they wont tell you what kind of value they would pay out,
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I think Hagerty will insure for a daily.
My dad has hagerty and he said that they won't let you do that. You have to have another vehicle. I was going to put hagerty on the 67 until he told me that.

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Are you wanting to keep a carb or go fuel injection? Both can get good mpgs if tuned properly, but IMO I would rather have the reliability of EFI for my daily driver, but thats just me.
Carbs can be just as reliable, my 67 is my DD and I've had it 4 years.
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You could use State Farm and insure under a stated value policy. Its been about 10 yrs since mine has been insured but at least they used to do it that way.
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