1966 Exhaust Upgrade
#1
1966 Exhaust Upgrade
I recently bought a 1966 Mustang Coupe with a 1968 302 engine and I'm wanting to upgrade the exhaust system. It currently has headers but I have no idea what brand, they have a bit of surface rust so I had planned on replacing them. I was thinking along the lines of Hooker Tuned Headers, H or X pipe, and probably Series 40 Mufflers, so a total exhaust makeover. On the headers is there a benefit other than ease of removal/installation for shortys vs full-length? I know that X pipe is more effecient that H pipe, but are there other advantages between the two? And on the mufflers I figured Series 40 would give me good rumble but still control the sound so that it's not overpowering, any thoughts on the mufflers?
#2
muffler opinions differ like choice of tennis shoes. I personally think Flowmaster 40s (and even 50s) are too loud. Shorty headers are easier to work with and provide more clearance if you're going to be doing any additional mods like steering or T5 transmissions.
on my 65, I have Heddman shorties with a 2.5" magnaflow stainless steel system. After many prior iterations, this is the best I've found.
http://performancepeddler.com/catalo...m-p-30894.html
Best price is $407 for this system.
on my 65, I have Heddman shorties with a 2.5" magnaflow stainless steel system. After many prior iterations, this is the best I've found.
http://performancepeddler.com/catalo...m-p-30894.html
Best price is $407 for this system.
Last edited by JamesW; 05-08-2013 at 10:21 PM.
#3
muffler opinions differ like choice of tennis shoes. I personally think Flowmaster 40s (and even 50s) are too loud. Shorty headers are easier to work with and provide more clearance if you're going to be doing any additional mods like steering or T5 transmissions.
on my 65, I have Heddman shorties with a 2.5" magnaflow stainless steel system. After many prior iterations, this is the best I've found.
http://performancepeddler.com/catalo...m-p-30894.html
Best price is $407 for this system.
on my 65, I have Heddman shorties with a 2.5" magnaflow stainless steel system. After many prior iterations, this is the best I've found.
http://performancepeddler.com/catalo...m-p-30894.html
Best price is $407 for this system.
#4
I went with Headman long tube ceramic coated headers and 2.5" Exh H pipe/Flowmasters 40's/Dr.Gas Tailpipes. I previously had 3 Chamber Dynomax Super Tubos but I wanted a louder muffler. So I'm happy with my setup.
#6
What do you want to do with the car? Different headers do different things. They put the power in different places, perform differently (albeit not that much differently from one another in most cases) and provide different clearance in different places.
I ended up going with JBA mid-length (shorty), and currently their h-pipe just cuz it bolts right up to their headers. It provides good ground clearance and is reasonable for maintenance access. I needed the ground clearance mainly for handling. Old Mustangs don't have specific provisions for exhaust routing, so it can hang down in some places. If you want your car to handle then it's going to get lowered, and that will limit your header choice for practical use.
There's no way you can run most LT's with a properly setup car for handling (talking autox, open track etc) and still have it be reasonable for the street. You'll be tearing header flanges up, and cutting gashes into collectors etc. If the car needs to turn, chassis improvements that give you better handling ALWAYS win out over minor improvements in power. A better handling car with less power is MUCH faster around a track where you have to turn then vice versa.
Basic rundown:
LT's - Best performance on the top end, and sometimes everywhere depending on the build, but highly limited ground clearance and often a pia for maintenance access.
Mid/short length - Reasonable performance everywhere, but not as good as LT's; but with superb ground clearance and reasonable maintenance access.
If it's a street performance car that'll go to the strip, or just run well on the street and won't be lowered much below stock, you can run LT's if you don't mind the maintenance clearance. But if you have any intent of making the car a serious handling car (talking a several thousand $$ investment into the suspension alone) then save yourself a ton of trouble and get shorties.
And you really get what you pay for with headers. If you want good fitting headers that lack clearance problems and perform well that won't rust or dent/gouge easily of they scrape....plan on spending around $600+
I ended up going with JBA mid-length (shorty), and currently their h-pipe just cuz it bolts right up to their headers. It provides good ground clearance and is reasonable for maintenance access. I needed the ground clearance mainly for handling. Old Mustangs don't have specific provisions for exhaust routing, so it can hang down in some places. If you want your car to handle then it's going to get lowered, and that will limit your header choice for practical use.
There's no way you can run most LT's with a properly setup car for handling (talking autox, open track etc) and still have it be reasonable for the street. You'll be tearing header flanges up, and cutting gashes into collectors etc. If the car needs to turn, chassis improvements that give you better handling ALWAYS win out over minor improvements in power. A better handling car with less power is MUCH faster around a track where you have to turn then vice versa.
Basic rundown:
LT's - Best performance on the top end, and sometimes everywhere depending on the build, but highly limited ground clearance and often a pia for maintenance access.
Mid/short length - Reasonable performance everywhere, but not as good as LT's; but with superb ground clearance and reasonable maintenance access.
If it's a street performance car that'll go to the strip, or just run well on the street and won't be lowered much below stock, you can run LT's if you don't mind the maintenance clearance. But if you have any intent of making the car a serious handling car (talking a several thousand $$ investment into the suspension alone) then save yourself a ton of trouble and get shorties.
And you really get what you pay for with headers. If you want good fitting headers that lack clearance problems and perform well that won't rust or dent/gouge easily of they scrape....plan on spending around $600+
#8
I went cheap and could not be happier.
I went with some stainless tri-Y headers off of Ebay for $170 (shipped) and a Shelby side exit exhaust system from Cj's for around $155 shipped.
It looks and sounds really good and is not overly loud. I do not find any performance restrictions with my mild motor from this system. I suppose if I had a bigger motor or a power adder I could add an X pipe, but I love the simplicity of this set-up.
I went with some stainless tri-Y headers off of Ebay for $170 (shipped) and a Shelby side exit exhaust system from Cj's for around $155 shipped.
It looks and sounds really good and is not overly loud. I do not find any performance restrictions with my mild motor from this system. I suppose if I had a bigger motor or a power adder I could add an X pipe, but I love the simplicity of this set-up.
#9
I went cheap and could not be happier.
I went with some stainless tri-Y headers off of Ebay for $170 (shipped) and a Shelby side exit exhaust system from Cj's for around $155 shipped.
It looks and sounds really good and is not overly loud. I do not find any performance restrictions with my mild motor from this system. I suppose if I had a bigger motor or a power adder I could add an X pipe, but I love the simplicity of this set-up.
I went with some stainless tri-Y headers off of Ebay for $170 (shipped) and a Shelby side exit exhaust system from Cj's for around $155 shipped.
It looks and sounds really good and is not overly loud. I do not find any performance restrictions with my mild motor from this system. I suppose if I had a bigger motor or a power adder I could add an X pipe, but I love the simplicity of this set-up.