Classic Mustangs (Tech) Technical discussions about the Mustangs of yester-year.

Keeping it original or upgrading for safety and reliability

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-05-2014, 01:27 AM
  #1  
scottlauffer
Thread Starter
 
scottlauffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2
Default Keeping it original or upgrading for safety and reliability

Hey folks,

We have inherited a 1965 small block that had been impecably maintained until about 15 years ago. At that point it was stored in a barn and has degraded rather quickly. When we were appointed as receiver, it was not running, had not been driven in approximately 14 years, and the interior was eaten up by field mice and who knows what else. I originally planned to keep it as original as possible, but the more thought I've put into it, I want to make it safe for my little boys to ride in, and make it more reliable. Is there any big disadvantage for going for max safety and reliability? I don't plan on entering it in any Concours shows or such, but possibly a local show. Any commentary, suggestions,, or comments are welcome. Thanks for your time.
scottlauffer is offline  
Old 07-05-2014, 05:12 AM
  #2  
woodvette
1st Gear Member
 
woodvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MD
Posts: 76
Default

if you plan on keeping it long term or even forever, do whatever you want. if you are going to sell it at some point soon, i would keep it mostly original. maybe do some basic upgrades like front disc brakes for safety. i feel that if you do modify it and try to sell it, others may not like your choices or style plus the added costs won't be recouped. i am doing mine as a resto mod b/c i have no intentions of ever selling it.
woodvette is offline  
Old 07-05-2014, 09:05 AM
  #3  
69mach1377
5th Gear Member
 
69mach1377's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: ABQ, NM, USA
Posts: 2,593
Default

If it is somehow rare or very desirable and worth a lot, keep it original. Otherwise, make it yours and do what you feel is required.
Welcome to the forum.

Last edited by 69mach1377; 07-05-2014 at 09:10 AM.
69mach1377 is offline  
Old 07-05-2014, 01:32 PM
  #4  
musnicki
3rd Gear Member
 
musnicki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Posts: 959
Default

If you're going to drive it more than once a month then go for safety. If it's something rare, like previously stated, or if you plan on putting it behind glass, in a museum and trailering it to car shows....then go for originality.

Post pictures and welcome.

James
musnicki is offline  
Old 07-05-2014, 05:03 PM
  #5  
barnett468
4th Gear Member
 
barnett468's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: arizona
Posts: 1,398
Default

hello;

there is very little you can do to increase safety other than install disc brakes, improve suspension, install wider tires so they skid less when braking, front seat shoulder harness and gas tank fire barrier.

with all this stuff, if you hit something hard enough it is irrelevant. you can still walk away from a crash in a newer car with air bags, crush zones etc.. that you could not survive in your car.

this biggest safety option is cautious driving.


Lee Iacocca

"It's 50 years old, if you want more safety, buy a new car."
barnett468 is offline  
Old 07-06-2014, 06:04 AM
  #6  
MonsterBilly
4th Gear Member
 
MonsterBilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Goodyear, AZ
Posts: 1,674
Default

You should just get something safer if it is a concern. Like a 707 hp Hellcat Challenger.

Ford made a ton of these cars. Do with it what you will. Enjoy it and drive it.
MonsterBilly is offline  
Old 07-06-2014, 09:08 PM
  #7  
scottlauffer
Thread Starter
 
scottlauffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2
Default

Thanks for all the advice. It is a car that I don't intend to make a daily driver, but we definitely want to enjoy it for family drives. That is the cause for my question of making it a little safer and reliable. I don't want to have to worry about stopping in time or stalling out 20 miles from home.
scottlauffer is offline  
Old 07-06-2014, 09:29 PM
  #8  
barnett468
4th Gear Member
 
barnett468's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: arizona
Posts: 1,398
Default

Originally Posted by scottlauffer
Thanks for all the advice. It is a car that I don't intend to make a daily driver, but we definitely want to enjoy it for family drives. That is the cause for my question of making it a little safer and reliable. I don't want to have to worry about stopping in time or stalling out 20 miles from home.
hello

ok, the stock drums work just about as well as stock disc providing you do not get the drums wet. the off the shelf material from drum goes sucks. you can get them relined at porterfield with good material.

if you want discs just buy a kit and put in hawk hp plus pads or similar.

now, as i mentioned, you need wider tires and also a lower profile and large diameter will help.

stock mustang suspension sucks because it is horrendously soft.

buy stiffer front and rear springs and decent shocks like kyb gray or for a firmer ride get the white ones.

i might use around 400 to 450 lb front springs in your case. the 620 are good for a full load bit are a bit stiff.

use around 145 lb in the rear.

put in a 1" front sway bar while you are at it.

install urethane bushings in the front strut rods.

install a shelby style shock tower brace and monte carlo bar.

NONE of this stuff is excessive or overkill for your app.

the stiffer suspension will improve braking and car stability while braking.

i would also consider sub frame connectors but they are more helpful on a convertible.

Last edited by barnett468; 07-06-2014 at 09:35 PM.
barnett468 is offline  
Old 07-07-2014, 10:46 AM
  #9  
wsovonick
1st Gear Member
 
wsovonick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 102
Default

Another thing I would suggest about the brakes, would be to upgrade to a dual bowl M/C, if it hasn't been done already. Kits are available, and it's not too difficult to do. As barnet468 suggested, I added a 1" sway bar last year (while upgrading to front disks) and handling has improved. My 65 is strictly for weekend fun and I spend a good part of my weekends driving it during the summer, sometimes in the evening. Another thing I did was to add halogen headlights and LED tail/brake lights. The better you can see and be seen adds to your safety. Lighting upgrades are simple and well worth the expense. The attached pics are of the brake lights on with regular 1157 bulbs and the LED upgrade kit I went with. Big improvement.
Attached Thumbnails Keeping it original or upgrading for safety and reliability-regular-brake-lights.jpg   Keeping it original or upgrading for safety and reliability-led-brake-lights.jpg  

Last edited by wsovonick; 07-07-2014 at 11:07 AM.
wsovonick is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SSRFUZZY
Members Other Vehicles
6
01-06-2016 08:22 PM
GimpyHSHS
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
3
09-18-2015 12:27 PM
fastbackford351
Classic Mustang General Discussion
2
09-12-2015 09:42 AM
vintageaion
2005-2014 Mustangs
2
09-08-2015 10:45 AM



Quick Reply: Keeping it original or upgrading for safety and reliability



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 PM.