1970 fastback- restore to original? or?
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1970 fastback- restore to original? or?
Hello everyone, I am new to this forum, I recently inherited and 1970 Fastback 302 2V 3 speed manual project. VIN 0T02F158887.
My question is... Is it worth restoring to original? or is it not worth much original and I can do it up how I want and toss motor and tranny?
So the car. It was originally yellow, painted red, paint now needs to be redone. floors, trunk, and rear quarters were rusted out so replaced. The motor might not be original but it matches the F-code VIN, have not checked motor numbers not quite sure how to do that. Interior is black leather buckets original to my knowledge. Missing most emblems. Clock says 50k miles but presumed it has flipped meaning 150k on it. Believed to be used as a drag car for a bit. nothing major modified if that was true.
My thinking is that a F-code 302 with a 3 speed stick is not worth much original, and this car will take alot to get it there. receipts for 5k on body work, was purchased for 3500 10 years ago. I want to make it a nice driver. Im a mechanic and metal fabricator so capable of doing anything to it. I want to put a 460 in it with the crites kit. a 5 speed maybe. Do one of the suspension kits etc. all over the next few years.
I want to make sure im not chopping up a gem, which I dont think it is but not positive.
Also any tips on good trannys, rear ends, suspention kits, and what code 460 would be greatly appreciated.
thanks! , Lars
My question is... Is it worth restoring to original? or is it not worth much original and I can do it up how I want and toss motor and tranny?
So the car. It was originally yellow, painted red, paint now needs to be redone. floors, trunk, and rear quarters were rusted out so replaced. The motor might not be original but it matches the F-code VIN, have not checked motor numbers not quite sure how to do that. Interior is black leather buckets original to my knowledge. Missing most emblems. Clock says 50k miles but presumed it has flipped meaning 150k on it. Believed to be used as a drag car for a bit. nothing major modified if that was true.
My thinking is that a F-code 302 with a 3 speed stick is not worth much original, and this car will take alot to get it there. receipts for 5k on body work, was purchased for 3500 10 years ago. I want to make it a nice driver. Im a mechanic and metal fabricator so capable of doing anything to it. I want to put a 460 in it with the crites kit. a 5 speed maybe. Do one of the suspension kits etc. all over the next few years.
I want to make sure im not chopping up a gem, which I dont think it is but not positive.
Also any tips on good trannys, rear ends, suspention kits, and what code 460 would be greatly appreciated.
thanks! , Lars
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Based on your description, it does not sound like a rare car that should be kept original, but that is your choice.
No need for a heavy big block nowadays if you are after hp, especially if you want it to handle nice.
Welcome to the club.
No need for a heavy big block nowadays if you are after hp, especially if you want it to handle nice.
Welcome to the club.
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No it is not rare
No point in putting a 460 in it unless you stroke it for stupid tq and hp numbers imo.
Get the heads you like here but don’t buy the a460 heads, they need a special block . . the raised port trick flow heads mat require cobra jet style headers . . also look at blue thunder and jon kaase heads.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...ock-385-series
eddy vic jr or other open plenum intake
around a 780 – 850 pro form style body vacuum secondary type carb, holley or quick fuel.
You can not use a t5 trans, a 600 is far better with a taller first gear and better gear spacing . . you will have to make clearance in part of the trans tunnel for it and raise the trans mount so the top of the shift tower can stick up into the floor by around 1” otherwise you will likely have drive shaft vibrations.
Run around 3.40 to 3.50 rear gear ratio
almost any 460 you can find.
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No it is not rare
No point in putting a 460 in it unless you stroke it for stupid tq and hp numbers imo.
Get the heads you like here but don’t buy the a460 heads, they need a special block . . the raised port trick flow heads mat require cobra jet style headers . . also look at blue thunder and jon kaase heads.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...ock-385-series
eddy vic jr or other open plenum intake
around a 780 – 850 pro form style body vacuum secondary type carb, holley or quick fuel.
You can not use a t5 trans, a 600 is far better with a taller first gear and better gear spacing . . you will have to make clearance in part of the trans tunnel for it and raise the trans mount so the top of the shift tower can stick up into the floor by around 1” otherwise you will likely have drive shaft vibrations.
Run around 3.40 to 3.50 rear gear ratio
almost any 460 you can find.
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Last edited by barnett468; 01-18-2015 at 10:02 PM.
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Any tubular a arms like tcp
Open tracker roller spring perches.
Tcp front strut rod bushings.
from 480 - 620 lb front coil springs depending on driving style and desired firmness/harshness.
Scott drake billet aluminum upper shock tower caps.
Koni shocks with adjustable damping *****
Or strut rods and eliminate the top shock tower caps.
Lower the upper arm mounting point 1” like the shelbys if you want it to corner really well or buy the tcp 1” lowering arms.
1” – 1 1/8” sway bar with urethane bushings
Open tracker roller spring perches.
Tcp front strut rod bushings.
from 480 - 620 lb front coil springs depending on driving style and desired firmness/harshness.
Scott drake billet aluminum upper shock tower caps.
Koni shocks with adjustable damping *****
Or strut rods and eliminate the top shock tower caps.
Lower the upper arm mounting point 1” like the shelbys if you want it to corner really well or buy the tcp 1” lowering arms.
1” – 1 1/8” sway bar with urethane bushings
#6
agreed with the post above.
When it comes to engine, IMO you would be better off stroking a 351 to a 408 with a nice set of heads and 3.73 gears. It will handle much better due to the lighter weight and you will have more area to work in the engine bay. probably get just as much power and it will be a blast to drive.
When it comes to engine, IMO you would be better off stroking a 351 to a 408 with a nice set of heads and 3.73 gears. It will handle much better due to the lighter weight and you will have more area to work in the engine bay. probably get just as much power and it will be a blast to drive.
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Thank you for all the responses!
My thinking on the 460 was purely to say, yeah my mustangs got a big block, but if the weight will be that big of an issue the 351 sounds like a good idea as we'll. I appreciate everyone's input, I am much more excited about it now that I know I can do what I want with it. Thanks again.
My thinking on the 460 was purely to say, yeah my mustangs got a big block, but if the weight will be that big of an issue the 351 sounds like a good idea as we'll. I appreciate everyone's input, I am much more excited about it now that I know I can do what I want with it. Thanks again.
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Thank you for all the responses!
My thinking on the 460 was purely to say, yeah my mustangs got a big block, but if the weight will be that big of an issue the 351 sounds like a good idea as we'll. I appreciate everyone's input, I am much more excited about it now that I know I can do what I want with it. Thanks again.
My thinking on the 460 was purely to say, yeah my mustangs got a big block, but if the weight will be that big of an issue the 351 sounds like a good idea as we'll. I appreciate everyone's input, I am much more excited about it now that I know I can do what I want with it. Thanks again.
as monsterbilly mentioned, you will have a ton more room with a 351 block . . run a roller cam, stroke it to 410, run afr 185 heads for medium hp around 475or 205's for ridiculous hp and 7000 rpm.
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