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Old 02-18-2009, 03:17 PM   #1
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What is the difference between the 5.0 roller block and the 289/302 blocks?
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:26 PM   #2
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The roller [i]block[i] has taller lifter bores, no boss on the d-side for a clutch z-bar mount, and is machined for a one-piece rear main seal. Also, I believe some of the earlier 289/302 blocks had a higher nickel content, making them slightly stronger, but I'm not sure on that one.
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The I think the lifter valley is also machined to accept a hold-down spider tray for the lifters.
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I've been told before that older 289/302 blocks will not support roller lifters as well as a 5.0 will, is this just another myth?
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The 5.0 blocks also have a hole in the side of the block for the dipstick that can be plugged fairly easy.
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I've been told before that older 289/302 blocks will not support roller lifters as well as a 5.0 will, is this just another myth?
Those tall lifter bores I was talking about keep the lifters from being popped out of the bores at the top of travel. You can convert non-roller blocks to a roller cam, but it requires the use of a reduced-base-circle cam to keep the lifters in the bores. Many kits also require that you drill and tap the lifter valley for the spider assembly.
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you can also use link bar lifters to convert non roller blocks to hyd roller so you can use any 5.0 off the shelf std base cicle cam. If I was starting from scratch I would use a roller 5.0 instead of a 289 o 302 for sure, unless you are pushing more than 450-500 hp o turning super high rpm its not an issue.
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No, you can't use a standard roller 5.0 cam in a non-roller block. Period. Roller lifters are taller because of the roller assembly at the bottom of the lifter. A standard base circle cam will push the cylindrical part of the roller lifter out of the bore.

You can use link-bar lifters to eliminate the need for a spider assembly, but not the need for a reduced base circle cam.
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link bar lifters dont need a red base circle cam.
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Yes, they do. They just don't need a spider assembly. The link bars just keep the lifters from rotating in the bores, which is normally what the spider assembly does. They don't make the lifters any shorter; you still need the roller assembly on the bottom.
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