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Old 10-17-2009, 02:46 AM   #1
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Default Donor Car for 65 Mustang Coupe (engine, tranny, rear end...)?

I am looking to do the 5.0 swap into my 65 mustang and up here in Idaho, there are not too many fox body mustangs around... but quite a few explorers.... what year explorer would be best to get?

I would like to get the 5.0 AOD and if I could use the 8.8 rear end with disc brakes that would be awsome!

Any other cars, mustangs, lincolns, thunderbirds, etc... just let me know what years I should be looking at and I will do the search..

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Old 10-17-2009, 02:51 AM   #2
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Anything with a 5.0 V8 between 1986 and 1994 including trucks like the F150 will get you an engine and possibly transmission.

Lincolns, Thunderbirds, and Cougars of that era have the small valve heads and tiny port intakes, they will work for a daily driver but arent the best for performance. You can swap better heads on them easy enough. Exploders have the good heads, cant recall right now what years were better, one of the other guys into those will be along shortly, like a few hours from now when they wake up.

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Old 10-17-2009, 07:04 AM   #3
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So will a '95 5.0 bolt up easily 86'-'89 AOD? Would you also need the comp, wiring harness, fuel tank, pump and lines ETC from an Explorer as well?

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Old 10-17-2009, 08:55 AM   #4
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So will a '95 5.0 bolt up easily 86'-'89 AOD? Would you also need the comp, wiring harness, fuel tank, pump and lines ETC from an Explorer as well?

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depends on if you want EFI or not. If you want to bolt on a carb, you just need the long block. If you want EFI, you need the whole engine plus wiring harness, computer, and aftermarket fuel pump, regulator, fuel lines.

the trans will be problematic since it will have a tail cone setup for a transfer case. I don't know enough about the AOD/AODe trans to know if the tail cones are replaceable (my explorer has a manual).

IIRC, all '95 (or is it '96?) and later explorers have rear discs. look for one with a limited slip diff. search the archives, someone has posted the diff codes for explorers a couple of times. you will also want to pick up a second short side (passenger IIRC) axle out of another explorer so you will have a matching set when you cut down the rear. AFAIK, they're all 31 spline.
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depends on if you want EFI or not. If you want to bolt on a carb, you just need the long block. If you want EFI, you need the whole engine plus wiring harness, computer, and aftermarket fuel pump, regulator, fuel lines.

the trans will be problematic since it will have a tail cone setup for a transfer case. I don't know enough about the AOD/AODe trans to know if the tail cones are replaceable (my explorer has a manual).

IIRC, all '95 (or is it '96?) and later explorers have rear discs. look for one with a limited slip diff. search the archives, someone has posted the diff codes for explorers a couple of times. you will also want to pick up a second short side (passenger IIRC) axle out of another explorer so you will have a matching set when you cut down the rear. AFAIK, they're all 31 spline.
The '65 coupe we are trying to get comes with a '95 5.0 Mustang GT motor with GT-40P heads and a Cobra R intake set up. I just gotta decide if I want to keep that or go carb.

I've got a 2000 explorer with 4.10's but they are not limited slip with disks that I may use when I'll need it in the next couple years while I get the other things done to the car.

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Explorer 5.0's came stock with the GT-40 heads and Cobra lower intake. I didn't know that there were any Explorers that didn't come with limited slip from the factory? All of them that I have seen (and that's a BUNCH) have all been limited slip. Not saying you are wrong, I've just never seen one. The Explorer 5.0 will bolt up to any small block or 300 I6 AOD.
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I didn't know that there were any Explorers that didn't come with limited slip from the factory? All of them that I have seen (and that's a BUNCH) have all been limited slip. Not saying you are wrong, I've just never seen one.
Mines is code # 42 which is open

Code ... Ratio
41 ...... 3.27C
42 ...... 4.10C
43 ...... 3.08C
45 ...... 3.55C
46 ...... 3.73C
D1 ...... 3.27L
D2 ...... 4.10L
D4 ...... 3.73L
D5 ...... 3.55L

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Old 10-17-2009, 11:58 PM   #8
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Forgive me as I am new... so I take it from the reading that any explorer with 5.0 AOD will work with my 65 mustang coupe?

I want EFI and would love to use the rear end out of the same explorer if possible...

And it just seems it is easier to get the wiring harness, computer, (complete car) if I just buy a donor..

I found a 5.0 with attached AOD out of a lincoln that the seller is saying has 35k+ miles on it... this I would think woudl not have to be rebuilt... he is asking $1500.... any thoughts? It comes with power steering pump, compresor, alt, etc. but not the computer for the EFI but does include the EFI stuff...
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Mines is code # 42 which is open

Code ... Ratio
41 ...... 3.27C
42 ...... 4.10C
43 ...... 3.08C
45 ...... 3.55C
46 ...... 3.73C
D1 ...... 3.27L
D2 ...... 4.10L
D4 ...... 3.73L
D5 ...... 3.55L

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Cool. Saved that to my files. Thanks for the info.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:31 PM   #10
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Forgive me as I am new... so I take it from the reading that any explorer with 5.0 AOD will work with my 65 mustang coupe?

I want EFI and would love to use the rear end out of the same explorer if possible...

And it just seems it is easier to get the wiring harness, computer, (complete car) if I just buy a donor..

I found a 5.0 with attached AOD out of a lincoln that the seller is saying has 35k+ miles on it... this I would think woudl not have to be rebuilt... he is asking $1500.... any thoughts? It comes with power steering pump, compresor, alt, etc. but not the computer for the EFI but does include the EFI stuff...

well, you can buy complete lincolns for not much more than that. not with that low mileage though.

kind of a wash as to whether or not it's worth it. the computers can be expensive and they tend to be one of the first things people nab at the junkyard. be sure to take a compression reading before committing. A stock 302 + AOD is nothing special. I can go to the local flat-rate junkyard and grab an AOD for $100.

if you get a complete car, you get a whole lot of little things that add up quickly (including wire, connectors, fans, etc and an 8.8 you could cut down with discs) and you can resell the parts you don't need on ebay to recoup your costs.
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