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Old 10-06-2012, 03:15 AM   #21
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Hi, I'm Jim. I live in the DTC area near I-25 and Belleview. I've owned my Stang for about 1 1/2 years. It's my DD. I work as a lawyer.

We did our first autocross in the Stang a couple weeks ago. Lots of fun. I have both the Stang and a 911 Porsche. The Stang will probably be the AX car and the Porsche will be the HPDE car.

Wouldn't mind meeting other MF'er's in the area. Maybe we can set up a breakfast or lunch at centralized restaurant - maybe Castle Rock so the CS people don't have to drive so far?
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:09 PM   #22
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Castle Rock would be great!

Welcome Jim. How are you liking the Porsche? The wife just got a 13 Audi A3, and it's interior is making me want to get rid of the Stang for something more upscale. I've been looking at the Audi S5. But, a friend is telling me to get a used 911.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:27 PM   #23
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Castle Rock works great for me!

I have my first child on the way in the next week or so therefore my schedule is up in the air right now. Perhaps we could schedule a weekend day for sometime early November?
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:26 PM   #24
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That works for me as well.

I want to offer these locally first, as it'll be easier to make a transaction...anyone interested in my wheel/tire setup?

20x9 20x10 Ace Alloy Convex's in matte black with 255/35 and 295/30 Toyo Proxes 4's.

I paid $2600 new. Used for 3 months...1000 miles approx.

$2000 obo PM if interested
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:07 AM   #25
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Castle Rock would be great!

Welcome Jim. How are you liking the Porsche? The wife just got a 13 Audi A3, and it's interior is making me want to get rid of the Stang for something more upscale. I've been looking at the Audi S5. But, a friend is telling me to get a used 911.
Mine's an '87. It's a fun car, but I can't comment from personal experience on the newer ones. I've had it for 12 years. I know people with the newer one's and they really like them.

Learned how to really drive in that car. 911 vs. Stang, they are both fun in very different ways. The real advantage of the Stang is it's more usable as a daily driver at least compared to the '87.

There's two Porsche Club events coming up which I plan to attend. October 11, Prestige Imports is having their yearly October Fest for the Porsche Club people at the dealer. October 20 is an autocross event. If you want to go to either of these PM me. It would be a good way for you see the various models and years and talk to owners,all in one place! You will probably see everything from 356's to GT3's.

BTW, the autocross is open to all Marques and you don't have to be a member if you want to drive. So, you can try your Stang around the cones.

I'll throw a date out to everyone to meet. How 'bout October 27, morning, at the Village Inn in Castle Rock, right off the Wolfsenberger exit?
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@ Forced Air - Congrats on the new arrival! Alternative dates - Nov. 3 or 10?
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Nov 3 or 10 works better for me. My sons bday party is oct 27. When we get a date we all like I will send out a pm to everyone. Castle rock sounds like a good place.
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Nov 3 or 10 works better for me. My sons bday party is oct 27. When we get a date we all like I will send out a pm to everyone. Castle rock sounds like a good place.
Both Nov 3 and 10 works for me.
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Hello all,

My name is Eric and I am looking for fellow Mustang people to drive the hell outta our cars. A little bit about me, Mechanical Engineering student at UCD, I go to school full time and work part time. I have had my 04 GT for....it will be seven years in December. I haven't run up at Bandimere in a while but I do get to autocross it regularly. It's got a full complement of bolt on's. I would love to meet up at some point, any weekends are good for me. Next autocross for me is Oct 21st, if anyone is interested.

Nov 3rd and 10th are both good for me as far as I can tell.

Love the wheels moshpit mad, really nice looking stang
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Hey guys, glad to see this thread get revived.
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Hey Eric good to meet you. I've wanted to try outcross it sounds like fun. Where are you racing at? What it cost to do that?
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Love the wheels moshpit mad, really nice looking stang
Feel free to buy em, or let a friend know. Thanks.

I can't stand auto-x personally. It's usually around $45, you stay in 2nd gear most of the time, the run lasts :50-1:00 long, you only get 3 runs, and then you work for half the day. What racing organization makes you work 3hrs, and pay them for 3 minutes of total race time?
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Next next autocross is down at PPIR on the 21st. This is the place to signup if you are interested, rmsolo.org. It does cost around $45 for the day, we usually get four runs, but they do only last about a min and you do have to work the course. But it is cheaper and not as hard on your car as a full track day. I don't know exactly but I am pretty sure the safety rules aren't quite as stringent on an autocross course because you do generally only stay in 2nd. But for me is it about seat time and my car is a daily driver, so the wear and tear of consistent track days would really eat into my budget. But to each his own.
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Eric,

My son just graduated UCD with a music/business degree. You're in a good school.

I like the track days too. However, when all the costs are added up, its about $500 for a weekend. Autocross, becomes a lot better on the pocket.

The entry fees on these events just cover the club's costs and not much more. The facility fee is usually expensive and then there is the mandatory insurance.

How long have you been involved with SCCA?
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JThor,

I have been in it for 1.5 yrs maybe almost 2. Not very long.
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I like the track days too. However, when all the costs are added up, its about $500 for a weekend. Autocross, becomes a lot better on the pocket.

How do you figure the $500 for a weekend track day?
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How do you figure the $500 for a weekend track day?
For a stock car:

$175-300 for the entry fee.

Insurance for the car $100-150. Most insurance companies now exclude HPDE events from the insurance. Not an issue in autocross.

Tires and brakes. Stock pads don't cut it. So figure about $300 total for fronts and backs divided up by the number of events. Pads would usually last me the season. Rotors would be toast by the end of season. Also, at the end of every season, I would rebuild the calipers. The heat would fatigue the rubber.

Ditto for tires. I found that I would go through a set of street tires in 4-5 weekends. A $1000 set of tires over 4-5 weekends is a lot of money.

Gas (about one tank).

Oil change (I would change oil after every track weekend).

Brake fluid flush after every track weekend.

Lodging if you go out of town.

Food and whatever extras.

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Wow...that's a lot. I'd say that's the high end of a day at the track for sure though. 4hr session could be done with half a tank, would take less time off the tires and brakes...I don't know many who insure their car for that 4hrs.

So...$150 for 4hrs of driving. That's equivalent to 100 auto-x events with seat time. Plus you get to shift, and feel the car at speeds other than 40-50mph.
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Wow...that's a lot. I'd say that's the high end of a day at the track for sure though. 4hr session could be done with half a tank, would take less time off the tires and brakes...I don't know many who insure their car for that 4hrs.

So...$150 for 4hrs of driving. That's equivalent to 100 auto-x events with seat time. Plus you get to shift, and feel the car at speeds other than 40-50mph.
What I was quoting was for two-day events. There is definitely more seat time in a track event, and all things being equal, I would prefer the track event over the autocross. I never saw 4 hours of driving. Typically, there were three 15-20 minute runs first day. Second day would be one or two runs, then the time trials.

When I was doing them, I kept running totals of my costs. I didn't buy insurance because at that time, my insurer was still insuring HPDE's. Still, after adding up all the costs of running my car, it was really expensive - but worth it!
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I would agree that for actual seat time and driving experience a track day would be much better, but if your on a budget autocross is the way to go. I think starting out in autocross may be better because if you lose it I think there is a higher probability of serious damage to you and your car at a track day than an autocross. Also lets say you spend 450 on a weekend, that's a lot of money to find out you don't like driving in that manner.
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