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Old 08-22-2014, 06:52 AM   #1
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I just went and bought all new stuff to wash and wax my car and hopefully I'll get to it either this weekend or next Friday.

I just purchased or purchased since I bought my car:
Motorcycle engine cleaner/detailer
Mother's car wash
Meguiars Clay Bar Kit (two clay bars and detailer spray for lubricant)
Turtle Wax Carnauba car wax (I'm keeping it old school; it's what my dad always used on the cars when I was growing up)
Wash mitten
chamois clothe
wax applicators
30 microfiber towels
wheels cleaner wipes
tire shine with applicator

I think I'm going to have a long day ahead of me when I finally hit this! Any tips?
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I noticed you are using motorcycle engine cleaner. I was looking for a way to clean/degrease my engine and have used normal engine degreaser with below average results. Is Motorcycle engine cleaner better in your opinion?
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Here are some tips for ya:

Put the car soap in one bucket and fill it up normally then get another bucket and fill with just water. Take ur mitten and dip it in the soapy water, wash a panel, then dip it and agitate it in the plain water bucket, repeat this will minimize the grit/dirt/contaminates that u can scratch ur car with.

Dry with a plush microfiber towel.

the best way to get streak free windows? Windex? no. water. while drying your car use a moist side of the drying towel and dry your windows. It has to be a little moist. I NEVER have streaks.

to clean wheels, take a secondary old mitt, after your done washing the car, and wipe/clean the wheel lightly with the soapy water and plain water bucket, then dry and clean with old crummy towel. no chemical solutons needed.

to shine the tires, i use an aerosol can. i just spray the wheels, let them sit for 5-10 then do one swift light swipe over the tire with a old crummy towel. this makes your tire shine but on also will NOT have any sling-off.

If you want to clean/wipe down the interior, dont use straight armor all (grease), cut it with 3-4 parts water and 1 part AA. or get some dash cleaner from surf city garage. love that stuff.

for wax, nothing wrong with carnauba, it will give the paint a nice glow and shine, but doesnt last as long as synthetic. its a trade off. personally i use Meguiars Ultimate liquid wax. it goes on easily and comes off just as easily. smells good and leaves the metal panels feeling "soft".

clay bar is a great addition to your routine, make sure u have the bar lubed enough. if u drop it, its prolly best to discard it. knead it often
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Here are some tips for ya:

Put the car soap in one bucket and fill it up normally then get another bucket and fill with just water. Take ur mitten and dip it in the soapy water, wash a panel, then dip it and agitate it in the plain water bucket, repeat this will minimize the grit/dirt/contaminates that u can scratch ur car with.

Dry with a plush microfiber towel.

the best way to get streak free windows? Windex? no. water. while drying your car use a moist side of the drying towel and dry your windows. It has to be a little moist. I NEVER have streaks.

to clean wheels, take a secondary old mitt, after your done washing the car, and wipe/clean the wheel lightly with the soapy water and plain water bucket, then dry and clean with old crummy towel. no chemical solutons needed.

to shine the tires, i use an aerosol can. i just spray the wheels, let them sit for 5-10 then do one swift light swipe over the tire with a old crummy towel. this makes your tire shine but on also will NOT have any sling-off.

If you want to clean/wipe down the interior, dont use straight armor all (grease), cut it with 3-4 parts water and 1 part AA. or get some dash cleaner from surf city garage. love that stuff.

for wax, nothing wrong with carnauba, it will give the paint a nice glow and shine, but doesnt last as long as synthetic. its a trade off. personally i use Meguiars Ultimate liquid wax. it goes on easily and comes off just as easily. smells good and leaves the metal panels feeling "soft".

clay bar is a great addition to your routine, make sure u have the bar lubed enough. if u drop it, its prolly best to discard it. knead it often
Thank you, thank you! A couple of those things I had read, a bunch of that, I didn't know!
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I noticed you are using motorcycle engine cleaner. I was looking for a way to clean/degrease my engine and have used normal engine degreaser with below average results. Is Motorcycle engine cleaner better in your opinion?
I don't know for myself how it's going to work yet. I have a co-worker who suggested it to me, with a specific named product (that I can't remember). I can tell you that his heavily modded 2001 Bullitt's engine bay looks past showroom clean. Everything has a really nice, clean sheen to it.

I'll take before and after pictures and let you know the name of the product.
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ur welcome. any more questions just ask
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I just went and bought all new stuff to wash and wax my car and hopefully I'll get to it either this weekend or next Friday.

I just purchased or purchased since I bought my car:
Motorcycle engine cleaner/detailer
Mother's car wash
Meguiars Clay Bar Kit (two clay bars and detailer spray for lubricant)
Turtle Wax Carnauba car wax (I'm keeping it old school; it's what my dad always used on the cars when I was growing up)
Wash mitten
chamois clothe
wax applicators
30 microfiber towels
wheels cleaner wipes
tire shine with applicator

I think I'm going to have a long day ahead of me when I finally hit this! Any tips?
Replace the chamois with a microfiber waffle weave towel (or 2). Chamois are a thing of the past and most people don't wash or care for them correctly-let alone replace them-thus turning them into dirt magnets. Also "flat weave" drying towels (chamois is one) do not allow a break in water surface tension causing it to pull up any surface treatment you may have applied. Waffle weaves are 5x more absorbent than chamois and the pattern allows for proper release of water surface tension. It's the little things that make a BIG difference and will help cut time from your washing

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Here are some tips for ya:

Put the car soap in one bucket and fill it up normally then get another bucket and fill with just water. Take ur mitten and dip it in the soapy water, wash a panel, then dip it and agitate it in the plain water bucke[t, repeat this will minimize the grit/dirt/contaminates that u can scratch ur car with.

Dry with a plush microfiber towel.

the best way to get streak free windows? Windex? no. water. while drying your car use a moist side of the drying towel and dry your windows. It has to be a little moist. I NEVER have streaks.

to clean wheels, take a secondary old mitt, after your done washing the car, and wipe/clean the wheel lightly with the soapy water and plain water bucket, then dry and clean with old crummy towel. no chemical solutons needed.

to shine the tires, i use an aerosol can. i just spray the wheels, let them sit for 5-10 then do one swift light swipe over the tire with a old crummy towel. this makes your tire shine but on also will NOT have any sling-off.

If you want to clean/wipe down the interior, dont use straight armor all (grease), cut it with 3-4 parts water and 1 part AA. or get some dash cleaner from surf city garage. love that stuff.

for wax, nothing wrong with carnauba, it will give the paint a nice glow and shine, but doesnt last as long as synthetic. its a trade off. personally i use Meguiars Ultimate liquid wax. it goes on easily and comes off just as easily. smells good and leaves the metal panels feeling "soft".

clay bar is a great addition to your routine, make sure u have the bar lubed enough. if u drop it, its prolly best to discard it. knead it often
The 2 bucket system is recommended to limit and minimize the transfer of dirt from one spot to another. You should never, never, never agitate dirty water! All that does is stir up the dirt from the bottom and retrap it in your mitt! Dirt is heavier than water and will sink, if you let it. When rinsing your wash mitt, lightly dip it into the rinse bucket and wring it out. You can do this several times, but don't dip your mitt more than halfway into the rinse bucket.
Take your time and don't be in a hurry. That leads to more mistakes and problems than anything else.

While you're at it, you might as well seal up that black car to keep it as shiny and clean as long as possible. Add a sealant or protectant before your wax for that extra pop! Follow your wax up with a quick detailer to ensure no wax residue is left behind.

Your best tool is a super soft finishing cloth to give your car that final "once over" in case you missed anything and that final buff of perfection!
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Dump the chamois.

Dump the Turtle Wax junk. Buy Meguiars or another quality product.
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Okay, going to exchange the chamois and turtle wax. What exactly should I buy for wax? Synthetic? Page or in a squeeze bottle? What sealer product should I buy?
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You should read and make product purchases based off of what your research tells you is best for: your budget, your habits, your preferences, your needs and your car. Meguiars has their own online forum that is a treasure trove of information.
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For what it's worth I use the liquid wax as I find it easier to apply and I like the results.
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You should read and make product purchases based off of what your research tells you is best for: your budget, your habits, your preferences, your needs and your car. Meguiars has their own online forum that is a treasure trove of information.
Agreed!

To the OP:

It all depends on what you're looking for as an "end result"
There are a TON of products out there from the low-grade/every day consumer products to the commercial/professional products. Some of it is going to be test and trial. The way this industry has evolved lately, you're going to start seeing more and more synthetic products because they are easier to produce as the chemicals are all "commercially available" and are all EPA/VOC compliant.

Don't be afraid to try a few different products until you find something that fits with your washing habits and time allotment for beautifying your car.

Definitely recommend Meguiar's products as they have been at it a very long time and are constantly evolving their product lines.

Products from Obsessive Detail and Poorboys World are great products as well and a little more cost friendly.
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GLOCKer,

The biggest disadvantage you have is a black car. It will show every imperfection, but look like a million $$$$ when cleaned & maintained properly.

Here is an example of what you are up against. We used Meguiar's Microfiber DA system on this car back in April and despite some angry geese seeing their reflection in the car and pecking the crap out of it a few weeks ago, it's still holding 70% or better of its luster.

This was a 2 stage rebuild (compound/polish), then waxed and a coat of Opti-seal.

BEFORE PIC: You can see all the swirling under LED lighting
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AFTER COMPOUND:
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AFTER POLISH:
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WAXED & SEALED:
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IN DIRECT SUNLIGHT: No swirls! The spots you see are actually pollen. It was pretty bad when we pulled the car out of the garage and was covering everything faster than you could clean it off!
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Wow...you have done an amazing job with your black paint.
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I'm looking to get that deep look to the paint but using stuff I can purchase at the local auto parts store. I know, they don't offer the highest quality products, but they are in the price and time frame for me (I'm looking at taking off of work this Friday to lavish attention on my car all day and can't wait for a product to ship to me).

I'm going to return the chamois and turtle wax on Monday. I also goofed and bought Mequairs wash and wax. So I'm going to buy a car wash without the wax, a polisher, a synthetic wax, and a better drying clothe.

My plan is to get up at my regular time Friday (0600) and get right on detailing the car. I'm going to start on the engine bay, then wash the car, wash the wheels and tires, dry the car and put it in the garage, clay bar the car, polish the car, then wax it.

The next question is; should I get something to buff the car with or hand buff it?????
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GLOCKer,

The results shown in the picture were using a dual action buffer. A good one is going to cost you upwards of $120. You'll need pads, backing plates, etc.
You can get an "ok" one at Harbor Freight for maybe $70.
Not sure how long you've had the car, but the other thing you will be dealing with is dealer car lot neglect. No telling how long the car sat there, etc.
Unfortunately, you won't be able to get the results pictured by hand.You just won't be able to generate enough even pressure/friction to cut and polish effectively.

Since this it the first time giving the car a proper bath, i would concentrate on decontaminating the paint first and getting it to a point where it can be maintained effectively and regularly.

wash it, clay it, wash it again then add your waxes, etc.
The 2nd wash may seem unnecessary, but you're attempting to pull out as much dirt, rail dust, grime, you name it, that has been sitting on the car since you took it off the lot.

Enjoy spending time with the car. You'll get all of it down with some practice and time =)
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Thanks Steel! I bought my car new April 18, 2014 (the day after the Mustang 50th!), but it was manufactured October 2013, so it sat on the lot for a while. In fact, when I found the car online, on the dealer's website, the car had snow on it in the photos!

It sounds like I'm going to be spending SEVERAL hours cleaning my car this Friday! That's not a problem though. Right after I graduated from college back in 2003, I was washing my neighbors cars (I was luck enough to get in an apartment near my university for non-college students; these people had money and nice cars and only used their apartments for as their game-day tailgate spots). I really enjoyed "learning the curves" of their cars.

As far as cleaning my motor; any issues lightly spraying off the motor with water???
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Come on, man. You are making this out to be way more complicated. You've got to read up on your own...it's not practical to ask us to rewrite dozens of how-to articles in one thread just because you don't want to do any research on your own. As I suggested before, go to Meguiars forums and read up. Heck, read up on the forums here while you are at it.

I say again, you are making this way too complicated. In regards to your buffing question...do you want to do this all by hand or do you want to buy a machine to speed things up? It's that simple.
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Come on, man. You are making this out to be way more complicated. You've got to read up on your own...it's not practical to ask us to rewrite dozens of how-to articles in one thread just because you don't want to do any research on your own. As I suggested before, go to Meguiars forums and read up. Heck, read up on the forums here while you are at it.

I say again, you are making this way too complicated. In regards to your buffing question...do you want to do this all by hand or do you want to buy a machine to speed things up? It's that simple.
Everything I've read up on, on multiple forums, is contradictory. Even the how-to articles are contradictory! I'm hoping to hear what works for you guys and simplify it down to one place/one source of info.

And if I'm making it over complicated, it might be because of the horror stories I've read after people have detailed their cars incorrectly and damaged the finish on them!

I've poked around on that Mequiars forum a little but my access is a little limited until moderator approved.

As for the buffer; people seem to have one of two opinions: it's either the best tool ever for everybody for car detailing, or it's the worst tool for a novice to use.
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Give this thread a read through. I just started this process on my newly acquired car yesterday. I've made it through the first wash, clay bar, and half of the compound polish step. Finishing that tonight, moving onto the gloss polish, and then wax.

http://themustangsource.com/forums/f...-101-a-503492/
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