72MachOne99GT

im not sure about that one,
i thought the ford's v6 was a bit quicker than the camaro/firebird?

high 14's seems a bit too friendly for an underpowered v6

AmericanMuscle4.6GT

heres the way i look at it. a little SAT analogy for u guys

LT1 is to LS1 as 2V GT is to 3V GT

LS1 is to 3V GT as later LS1 RAM AIR is to 4V n/a.

GM has always been a little bit ahead tho, roughly 15-40 hp ahead.
but not too far ahead of the N/a 4v


LS1 is to Terminator as I am to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
no questions asked. when people nicknamed it the terminator they were not kidding. this thing takes out low/mid end ferraris BONE STOCK. ive seen it happen.


LS2 is almost on the terminator level.

NeoTokyo

No the V6 camaro's and birds are faster
94/95 3.8 Stang was only 145hp
96-98 3.8 Stang was 150hp
99-04 3.8/3.9 Stang was 193hp
05-06 4.0L Stang is 210hp

94-98 Stangs 4.6L 2V 215hp (Some 87-93' GT's were rated 235hp, i dont mention them much because I dont know much about them)
94-95 Cobra 5.0L V8 240hp
1995 Cobra R 5.8L V8 300hp
96-98 Stangs 4.6L 4V 305hp
99-04 Stangs 4.6L 2V 265hp
99-01 Cobra 320hp
2000 Cobra R 385
03-04 Cobra 390hp
05-06 Mustang GT 3V 305hp


93' 3.4L Camaro V6 160hp
93-95 5.7L Camaro V8 275hp
95-02 3.8L Camaro V6 200hp
96' 5.7L Camaro V8 285hp
96-98 5.7L SS Camaro V8 305hp
98-00 5.7L Z28 Camaro V8 305hp
98-00 5.7L SS Camaro V8 320hp
01-02 5.7L Z28 Camaro V8 310hp
01-02 5.7L SS Camaro V8 325hp

2002 WS6 TransAm 335hp
2002 WS6 Firehawk (WU6 Option) 355hp


As you can see the F-Bodies dominated power wise even in the V6 catagories untill just recently, and they still dominate overall. They are cheap to work on and they were cheap to buy new, but who is still in production, MUSTANG BABY! YEAH BABY!

There are some higher horsepower F-Bodies that I couldnt find specs on, but some were over 400hp for COPO type orders, of course you could do the same with mustang so it wasnt that big of an issue, anyways these are specs for people with real world credit and money. For those of you looking for quality, the F-Body interior was some of the junkiest cheap interior I have ever seen, Mustang interior is far superior, I am not quite sure on the 05 though, I havnt owned one but from sitting in them I dont like the interior.

Hope those specs helped clear things up.


-Eric-

72MachOne99GT

i hate when people list like, every number they can find... its nearly impossible to translate half of it

94/95 3.8 Stang was only 145hp
96-98 3.8 Stang was 150hp
99-04 3.8/3.9 Stang was 193hp

93' 3.4L Camaro V6 160hp
95-02 3.8L Camaro V6 200hp

so how much faster is a 200 hp v6 Fbody than a 193 hp v6 Stang?

(and i still dont see 200 hp propelling a heavy v6 into high 14's)

AmericanMuscle4.6GT

umm 94-96 had the 5.0

sanitarium16

94-95 has the 5.0
96-98 had the 4.6 with the 98 being rated at 225hp

JD1969

Ram Air cars had no more HP than other LS1's, I don't give a damn what the ratings were, it was all a marketing plow.

mustangman02232

because the camaro has a bit wider tires, so it will hook up better (205 or 225 for the stang vs 235 for the maro) and the 4L60-E is a 1000 times better then fords 4R70 pos

NeoTokyo

72MachOne99GT I dont give a damn if you hate it or not, The mustang numbers I knew off the top of my head, and the WS6 and WU6 option as well, the others I didnt know so I did my research which any intelegent person would do to make sure that the numbers were right.

Now the V6 camaro weights about the same as the V6 mustang (3077lbs 5spd) so it basicly comes down to who is the better driver. For pre-99 V6 stangs there is not much of a chance. The mustang V6 should really have a premium option like the SHO Taurus, get a nice DOHC 4.2L in there and kill other sixers, hell they could do an awesome job just with the 3.0 SHO if they updated it. Back in 91' it was 220/200 powerwise which was very impressive. In 99' it was replaced with a 3.4L DOHC V8 pushin 235/230. As you can tell I like the underdog, my First mustang was a 95' V6 but now she is a 95' Mach1 Project.

Another thing that should be taken into concideration when Fox Meets Bird is the different transmission gearing and final gear ratio's.

72MachOne99GT

whoa buddy. lol... i wasnt saying i hate you or anything like that

i said that i hate when we're looking for v6 stats and you threw out every v6 and v8 stat there was
(i guess hate was a strong word, but damn man, chill for a second)

i just thought that 99-04 v6 stangs beat up on v6 camaros/birds

i guess i still find it troubling that a 3.8 camaro/firebird is capable of a 14.9, when man fox body and almost all 95-98 GT's had trouble accomplishing that feet