Stupidly Error - Any Ideas
#1
Stupidly Error - Any Ideas
Ok so as much as I hate to admit it, but I screwed up. While swapping out the engine (this is the new motor), I hade to remove on of the heater hoses, the 5/16 socket came off and of course went into the 0lug hole, to make it worse rather than grab my magnet as I should have done, I tried to get it and down it went to the cylinder. So without taking off the head, which I don't really want to do. For two main reasons one never have removed the head on an overhead cam motor, and two don't want to do all the work involved. So any ideas how I might Fisk it out? Been using a small magnet bu only get it on the side, so far. So if anyone has ever done this and gotten it out without taking off the head, how about some deas?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
#2
I don't see you getting in there with anything except a telescoping magnet. Just gonna have to keep at it. Maybe rotate the engine by hand so that whatever cylinder it's in is at or near BDC? Would probably make access with the magnet about as good as it's gonna get without removing the cylinder head.
Maybe also try improvising some tools if you can't get the right angle with a telescope magnet. I was thinking something like a small magnet on a string?
Maybe also try improvising some tools if you can't get the right angle with a telescope magnet. I was thinking something like a small magnet on a string?
Last edited by Z28KLR; 11-23-2016 at 07:53 PM.
#3
Whatever you do, don't start it! (Forgive me, but I feel the need to say that. I encountered a fellow on another forum who made that mistake, after dropping a hose clamp down the intake.)
With the angle of the piston, I'm sure the socket has rolled down to rest in the bottom of the chamber, near the outer edge of the engine (think below the exhaust port).
I really think that your best bet is to keep trying with the magnet. Putting it on a string might work, but I wouldn't try that without making sure that the magnet was secure so as not to come off in the cylinder. (It wouldn't be attracted to the valves, would it?)
With the angle of the piston, I'm sure the socket has rolled down to rest in the bottom of the chamber, near the outer edge of the engine (think below the exhaust port).
I really think that your best bet is to keep trying with the magnet. Putting it on a string might work, but I wouldn't try that without making sure that the magnet was secure so as not to come off in the cylinder. (It wouldn't be attracted to the valves, would it?)
#4
Alumn. Block & pistons I hope?? I'd try taking a tool that's a wire with magnet on the end & mark the place where it hits the piston. Then make a stop so it is just above the piston & try to fish it around! I think it would be easiest if the piston is at the bottom of the down stroke since you will have a lesser angle as you draw it out.
Worst comes to worst... it might be easier to remove the pan & pull that rod & piston out of the bottom. Putting the piston & rings back in the cylinder from the bottom might not be easy & require someone good at installing pistons. In most engines it can be done.
Good luck!
Worst comes to worst... it might be easier to remove the pan & pull that rod & piston out of the bottom. Putting the piston & rings back in the cylinder from the bottom might not be easy & require someone good at installing pistons. In most engines it can be done.
Good luck!
Last edited by Mr. D; 11-24-2016 at 05:33 AM.
#5
I don't think it's possible to pull the rod and piston from the bottom without pulling the crank and even then I think there is interference from the main webs. Be very careful if you try to rotate the engine as it would be easy to lodge the socket so it can do damage to the valves. I hate to say it but the safest way may be to remove the head.
#8
OH JEEZ !!! lol.
It would never make it past the fulcrum valve and probably lodge in the tinker seal.
Thanks for sharing OP, these types of threads make me feel normal lol.
You could also look for one of these flexible-shaft grabber tools that have the little fingers the protrude out at the end of the shaft when you squeeze the other end.
Good luck
It would never make it past the fulcrum valve and probably lodge in the tinker seal.
Thanks for sharing OP, these types of threads make me feel normal lol.
You could also look for one of these flexible-shaft grabber tools that have the little fingers the protrude out at the end of the shaft when you squeeze the other end.
Good luck
#10
I don't think it's possible to pull the rod and piston from the bottom without pulling the crank and even then I think there is interference from the main webs. Be very careful if you try to rotate the engine as it would be easy to lodge the socket so it can do damage to the valves. I hate to say it but the safest way may be to remove the head.