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Just finished my Spec II clutch install.

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Old 01-14-2008, 02:39 AM   #1
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Default Just finished my Spec II clutch install.

Did the installation on jackstands.
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Lol. I've done clutch installs before, but always on a lift. Well, this time I had no access to a lift, so I figured I'd get the car as high in the air as possible and just swap it out on my back. Bad idea. My body hurts in places I didn't even know it could hurt, and an install that usually takes me 4-6 hours took me two days instead (with lots of long beer and nap breaks in between). I took a few notes for the people who asked me to, but pictures were out of the question. I was too busy cursing and bleeding to take pictures, and the hardest parts of the job are impossible to photograph anyway, as they are the bolts located above the transmission. I'm gonna hop in the shower, and then I'll post the notes that I took.

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Old 01-14-2008, 03:32 AM   #2
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I always remove the negative battery cable bfore doing any work on the car.

Raised the car as high as possible on 4 jackstands. (If you have access to a lift, I HIGHLY recommend that you use it!)

Make SURE the tranny is in nuetral.

I have a spydershaft, so I just removed the front bolts of the driveshaft and braced it up out of the way on an uprighted cinderblock. If you have the stock driveshaft, you'll probably need to remove it completely.

Remove the starter. (Three wires and three bolts. Takes less than 5 minutes.)

The transmission is much easier to remove if theH pipe is out of the car, but it can be done with the H pipe in. Iended up takingit out, but you can decide what's better for you once you're under there.

Disconnect the bolt where the shifter connects to the transmission.

Disconnect all of the electrical connectors from the transmission and LABEL them with a piece of tape. Some of them can be easily mixed up and you don't want to have to figure out where you made a mistake later. There are 6 electrical connections. One is for backup lights, one is for the transmission speed sensor, and four are oxygen sensors. Some of them are on top of the transmission and VERY difficult to reach.

Support the engine. (Ideally with a floor jack and block of wood under the oil pan, but I used a cinderblock and a couple of blocks of wood.)

Support the transmission with a transmission jack if available (I used a large floor jack and a small, flat piece of wood.)

Remove the crossmember at the rear of the transmission. (Very easy step,four bolts to body, one to transmission.)

Here comes the part that will have you inventing new curse words: removing the transmission to engine bolts. I'd recommend removing the top bolts first, they are hardest to reach and will take the longest, and it's easier to keep the transmission from tipping off of the jack and onto your fingers if you remove the bottom bolts last. (Don't even ask me how I know that.[:@]) You will need some long socket extensions and a universal joint. I used two 10" extensions with the universal in the middle. When you get to the point of reinstalling the tranny, lining these bolts up will drive you INSANE. Finally, lower the jack while keeping the transmission steady and moving it back and away from the engine. (This is much easier with the H pipe out.)

Push an alignment tool (most clutches come with one) through your old clutch's disc to support its weight. Loosen the flywheel to clutch bolts a little at a time, going back and forth so that all of the pressure is not relieved from one at a time. Remove the bolts, pressure plate, and clutch. Use the alignment tool to put the new clutch in place. Apply a dab of loc-tite to each of the flywheel to clutch bolts and tighten them (again going back and forth so that the pressure is not all applied to one bolt at a time) making sure that the clutch is aligned.

The rest of the installation is pretty much the reverse of the removal. You will curse ford a million times for leaving so little clearance between the transmission and tunnel, and you may have to give a neighborhood kid with small hands a few bucks to connect the electrical connections above the tranny if you have large hands. It is seriously that tight. If anyone attempts this and has any other questions, or if I left out anything important, PM me.

Lastly, if you can afford to, pay someone else to do it.




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Old 01-14-2008, 03:55 AM   #3
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I think you have to remove the H pipe in order to get the trans mount out. Atleast I couldn't see any way around it.
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I think you have to remove the H pipe in order to get the trans mount out. Atleast I couldn't see any way around it.
The last time I did a clutch swap, I seem to remember leaving the H-pipe in, although I agree with you, I couldn't see any way of getting it out with the H-pipe in this time. I could be wrong. I'll have to contact the guy who owns the other car to see if we removed the H-pipe when we did his swap, but I really don't remember having to. I did kinda jump in when he was already about an hour into that job though, so it's possible that he already had the H-pipe out and I'm just not remembering it for some reason.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:28 AM   #5
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Thanks for putting up this thread, I was planning a Spec 2 to support theSaleen SC I installed, from reading your comments I think I will order the parts then go get some quotes on getting a shop to do it.
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thanks nail, for the writeup

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Old 01-14-2008, 10:18 AM   #7
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So how about some driving impressions? I was thinking of going with this set up when my clutch goes. How is the peddle effort compared to stock and what torque will it hold?

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Old 01-14-2008, 10:44 AM   #8
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Did you have to bleed it??..if so how hard was that to do??...also..did you use the stock flywheel ?...Thanks
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Default RE: Just finished my Spec II clutch install.

Would those bolts have been easier to get to if you let the back of the motor tip down about 1-2 inches (after disconnecting the exhaust) or is that even feasible with the Mustang?
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I did this once with my 99 Cobra and I will never do another clutch install on my back again...using a lift FTW! lol...doing the install on your back FTL!
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:17 PM   #11
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I dont even want to fathom getting to those top tranny-engine bolts [sm=headbang.gif]Thanks for the info nine.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:24 PM   #12
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How much harder is it to push the cluth in vs. stock? I ask this because i want to upgrade my cluth but i use my car as a DD. I also live pretty much rite by the city of chicago so there is alot of traffic and i dont want my leg to go numb lol.
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So how does the clutch feel? Going to order a performance clutch soon.
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I had a stage III clutch put in about two months ago and yes, it is a little firmer...but not bad at all. I actually like it better because I feel more in control. It is not even as bad as my brothers stock 99 cobra clutch...
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I had a stage III clutch put in about two months ago and yes, it is a little firmer...but not bad at all. I actually like it better because I feel more in control. It is not even as bad as my brothers stock 99 cobra clutch...
I need to upgrade, at the moment, i think i could powershift with mywang its so flimsy.
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$300 bucks at the dealer. I did not even want to mess with it without a lift!
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I'll try to address everyone's questions in one post:

First, driving impressions. The pedal effort is nearly identical to stock, but I am getting a very faint chatter at low RPMs. From what I understand this is common with Spec clutches because of the compound they use and will go away during the break in period.

The Spec II is rated for 520 ft. lbs.

Yes, I reused the stock flywheel. I had it resurfaced by a local shop for $25.

Bleeding the clutch is easier than bleeding your brakes. There is only one bleeder valve to deal with and you just make sure there is enough brake fluid in the resevoir.

I couldn't really get the motor tipped back any more without loosening the prothane motor mounts. I suppose it would be easier to tip the motor back some with the stock motor mounts.

Also, moose was right. The rear transmission crossmember cannot be removed with the H-pipe in. There are two hangers connected to it. Don't know how I missed that before...
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Good job nine....that must have been one helluva battle with no lift!
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I had a stage III clutch put in about two months ago and yes, it is a little firmer...but not bad at all. I actually like it better because I feel more in control. It is not even as bad as my brothers stock 99 cobra clutch...
I need to upgrade, at the moment, i think i could powershift with mywang its so flimsy.

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Yo man, did you have the flywheel turned or replace it?
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