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Old 04-06-2012, 11:31 AM   #1
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I am considering buy a GT, preferably 2010 and on. I'd like to get a sense of its quality. Most of reviews I read focus on how nice it looks and how much fun it drives but hardly any on its quality.

Frankly I don't want to buy a car that will do bi-monthly visit to the dealership beyond just routine maintenance. Just as a comparison. I have a 12 years old Accord which never gave me any problem. 12 years later, no rattle or vibration of any sort and still drives and feels like a new car.

In comparison, I used to have a 96GT. In the short time it's under my custody, first its water pump broke and I spent $800 to fix it, and then it wouldn't start randomly. I spent $$$ to have it towed a number of times and the dealer couldn't figure out what was wrong. It got to a point that I was scared to drive it because I never knew when it would quit and leave me stranded. Then a few months later, some illegal immigrant ran a red light and totaled my GT.

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Old 04-06-2012, 11:38 AM   #2
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I forgot to say that the 96GT I had was only 4 years old. The problems were on top of its driving-me-insane rattles. It seemed its interior parts were all coming off.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #3
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The 2005+ GTs (designated S197s) are a much better car than previous models. Mine is still rattle-free with 59,200 miles. There are a few S197s that have well over 100,000 miles and have had minimal problems, if any. I plan on keeping my car for at least 3 more years, and probably longer!
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:57 PM   #4
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Although the domestics have improved over the past decade or 2, they're still not up there with most of the imports. I'd never expect the reliability from my Ford's like I do my Toyota's. But overall, I'm pretty well pleased with both Stangs, even though mine isn't my DD and my wife doesn't put a lot of mileage on her's, which IS a DD.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:36 PM   #5
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I am tired of taking my car to the dealership personally.

rough shift issue (2 visits, had to point out a TSB to get action performed)
differential leaking (1 visit, TSB prepared in advance)
paint issue (1 visit)
now I'm having an electrical issue, head units defaulting to AM 600 when the car starts, and my MyColor options are flaking out and picking the wrong colors.

I really don't want to see the dealership again for a while .. maybe I've been lucky, but my accords, 350z, wrx, camaros etc .. never had these sorts of issues and were never at the dealership.

love the car, but boy do I loathe leaving it at the dealership...

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I am tired of taking my car to the dealership personally.

rough shift issue (2 visits, had to point out a TSB to get action performed)
differential leaking (1 visit, TSB prepared in advance)
paint issue (1 visit)
now I'm having an electrical issue, head units defaulting to AM 600 when the car starts, and my MyColor options are flaking out and picking the wrong colors.

I really don't want to see the dealership again for a while .. maybe I've been lucky, but my accords, 350z, wrx, camaros etc .. never had these sorts of issues and were never at the dealership.

love the car, but boy do I loathe leaving it at the dealership...
See this is the thing I don't want to deal with. Which year is your car?

I assume yours is still under warranty. Imagine you have to pay to get it fixed. :-(
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:15 PM   #7
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I've had my 2010 GT Convertible since October of 2009, it currently has 61,000 miles on it. I have had zero quality/build issues with the car to date. The only trips to the dealer have been for the routine maintenance as recommended by Ford. I am pretty picky regarding squeaks and rattles, and fixed two minor things myself. The first was a rattling sound at low speeds in the interior rear quarter trim on the driver's side, which I fixed with a bead of clear RTV along the joint between two of the trim pieces. (did the same to the passenger side just as a precaution). The other was an squeaking sound from the LCA bushings when going over speed bumps in damp weather. The short term fix for this was to use some spray lube on the bushings whenever the squeak appeared, the long term solution was to replace the LCAs with aftermarket ones that have grease fittings incorporated into their design. Otherwise everything else on the car has been rock solid and works great.
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Also, considering that the # of TSB's associated with the S197 is equal to or greater than the total # of TSB's associated with the 6 different model Toyota's that I've owned, I'm surprised I even own 2 Stangs. Damn Ford for making the S197 such a cool car...
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:58 PM   #9
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It depends on how well you treat your car. My brother's 2000 toyota camry he bought used rattled, had tons of issues and eventually the engine blew up, a valve broke off and scored the cylinder, this was in 2006.

I really dont think toyota or honda are making cars any better than ford does.

You will likely eventually get rattles, you can chase them all down if you like, i've never personally been in a car that didn't have a single rattle a few years, even my uncle's 6 series BMW had a couple of rattles, and i think he paid over 75,000 for the car brand new. for the most part my 2000 grand am didn't have any rattles (assuming im driving on a smooth road) but as soon as there was any roughness to the road things would start rattling, so it's relative.

But again this depends on road conditions and type of driving. I can't imagine a 12 year old accord that never developed a rattle, you must be driving it only sundays on the best roads under 50 miles per hour. My uncles BMW rattled because he lived on a dirt road and it shakes so much that things get loose. you might think well who drives a 6 series bmw and lives on a dirt road. All of his neighbors were millionaires too, ex-pro sports players and such, it was just a decent area with a lot of land.

That being said, at this point I don't notice any rattles in my 2012, i had some rattle from my dash in my 07 at certain RPMs. I've had 0 issues with either of my mustangs.
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I've modified mine, have 35K miles on it now. It's a 2010 and the only issue I have right now is a cam shaft sensor error that nobody can tell me where it's coming from. It runs great though.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:00 PM   #11
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the 2005-2009 had better quality than the previous years, and for 2010 ford stepped it up a notch even more. i loved my 2010 and the quality was excellent.
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I'm about 16500 miles in on my 2011 GT and overall I'd say I'm very satisfied for the money. There are a couple noises that bother me in the cabin that I guess could be called rattles, but I can't complain too much since I haven't even bothered to go after their source.

Other than that, I haven't been to the dealer once with it for any issues on the car. I've changed my oil a couple times now and do regular checks on it to make sure everything is working and running well. Only problem I had related to the car was trying to get Ford to give me a new wheel lug wrench. Thing they give you in the trunk is a POS, I bent it putting on wheels after 1 tire rotation. Unfortunately it's not covered by the warranty so I had to replace it with a well made 4-way, probably worth it though.

As an aside though, if reliability is what you're critically after, then American cars IMO still aren't quite there. My mom drives and owns a camry and having abided by the routine maintenance schedule, it honestly rides and sounds just the same as when it left the factory floor. Her car is coming up on 4 years old now. All the power to American companies for finally stepping up quality but they are having to catch up, they aren't setting standards.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:24 AM   #13
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2009 GT, ~24500 miles. One issue was a dead battery and it was my fault. Over winter break I used vacation time from work so I didn't need to drive anywhere for about a month. I let it die. My only other issue was the sun shade for my glass roof ripped the first time I tried to pull it forward, the dealer had pushed it too far back and bent something during my test drive. Both were resolved under warranty. Both issues were not the car's fault.
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I've had mine for a little over a year and over 13,000 miles and zero issues, go to automd look up tsbs and recalls there, look into the quality control ford has been doing recently, the new ford interior quality on the premium rivals Audi...
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"it wouldn't start randomly" sounds like you didn't even try to find the problem, let alone fix it yourself. that's perfectly fine but your asking a group of people who would have probably tried to do something about it (this being a mustang forum and all) so maybe you should talk to some other people about it who wouldn't have such biased opinions.
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I still get a big kick out of people that say "I have 13,000 miles..." or "I have 25,000 miles..." along with "... and haven't had a problem."

It's when you can say that you've had 6 vehicles, 3 of them over 200,000 miles and 3 others with at least 150,000 miles and still no problems that you can truely boast. I can.
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Ive had my 2010 GT Premium since July of 09 and it was built in June of 09. I purchased it in Morgan HIll, CA and I drove it from Gilroy, CA to Monterey, CA every day for almost a year and had no issues with it. When I took it to Ford for oil changes and things, they said that the car was like new and they were shocked that I didn't drive it hard and abuse it. I drove it from California to North Carolina where I live now and I have about 63,000 miles on it and it's still like new. This car is WAY more durable than my old 98 GT and I don't want to talk about that steaming pile....
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Nuke, I luv ya man...

But the OP asked about the quality of new Mustangs. The responses of new Mustang owners are, of course, limited to relatively low mileage cars. Such as in my case:

2010 GT, DD, 38,000 miles, zero problems.

I will report back in a few years when I cross 150,000!
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I purchased a 12 and it's been in the shop 2 times for electrical issues.... They still cannot figure out what's wrong with it, but warranty and loaners.... what more can you ask for? It's a new model and will have kinks, that's reality. They will soon be resolved...Always remember you will see more negative responses then positive. Millions of the 5.0's are on the road without issues.

Yes, they're a lot of TSB's, but they're fixing them. I prefer to stay stock and not void my warranty for this particular reason.

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