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2013 GT Test Drive -- Bad Experience

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Old 05-10-2012, 07:30 PM   #21
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I was sitting here thinking I can roast the tires in mine starting in 1st 2nd or 3rd.

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Old 05-10-2012, 07:52 PM   #22
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The 5.0 with the stock tune is a bit of a dog in the low RPM band from what I've heard from others. The only reason that I don't know personally is because I'd write them a check in a heartbeat if I got behind the wheel of a 5.0...

Custom tunes do wonders for the low RPM and the 5.0 typically sees roughly 30-40 RWHP gains from custom tunes. Hopefully, that'll get you back in that saddle.
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Old 05-11-2012, 02:01 AM   #23
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I know that the GT500 has an alternate tuning strategy to limit performance on brand new cars when they ship. Who needs 500+ HP to pull it on and off a truck. Takes something like 50 start / warm up cycles to defeat this "governer" tune. Maybe they are doing this for all new 5.0s now. I find it hard to believe that your V6 could be that close in performance!
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:53 AM   #24
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I know that the GT500 has an alternate tuning strategy to limit performance on brand new cars when they ship. Who needs 500+ HP to pull it on and off a truck. Takes something like 50 start / warm up cycles to defeat this "governer" tune. Maybe they are doing this for all new 5.0s now. I find it hard to believe that your V6 could be that close in performance!
that is very very interesting... i do think the BAMA tune on the V6 makes things tougher to distinguish.. i also thought of something else. when i drove that 2011 GT, i had driven to the dealer with my 1995 Toyota Truck.. i think that thing has like 45 hp total, hahahaha. this time i jumped from the bama tuned V6, and things weren't as big of a leap..

regardless. i just found out that Ford is offering some great incentives on 2012 GT's, so i'll probably look for those now. if there's any left.

does anyone know if my BAMA tuner that I use on my V6 can be re-written and used on the GT?
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:56 AM   #25
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yes the SCT X3 will work on the GT just fine..just unmarry it from your V6 and get a new Tune from bama for the GT and good to go. yea I was looking at a 13 but I can get a 12 premium for same price as a base so i am working with a dealer now on a premium black GT
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:18 AM   #26
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yes the SCT X3 will work on the GT just fine..just unmarry it from your V6 and get a new Tune from bama for the GT and good to go. yea I was looking at a 13 but I can get a 12 premium for same price as a base so i am working with a dealer now on a premium black GT
sweetness! thanks for the info.

btw, current incentive for 2012 Mustang GTs: 0% apr for 60 months + $3,250 cash back to ya. they're trying to wipe the inventory for the 2013s.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:02 PM   #27
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Had a 2012 GT Premium with security package, hid package, upgrades wheels, comfort package - it stickered near 38K the dealer was asking 30K (With the 2500 cash back)...

I still bought the 13. The changes are well worth it to me.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:29 PM   #28
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Regarding the performance issue, how many miles are on the GT? I remember getting my 2011 V6, when I first got it, for the first few miles, performance was not that good, but when the engine broke in it was much better. Maybe this is the case for the 5.0...
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I would think that with 3.73's 1st gear would be pretty much useless in daily driving. I rarely use 1st with 3.31's, unless im really gonna romp on it.
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well, i managed to find a 2012 Mustang GT - Grabber Blue with a manual transmission... due to incentives and what-not, i'll be able to get it for under $27k.. leather seats, and such.. problem is that its in baltimore, maryland and i'm in dayton, ohio.......... well, looks like i got myself a road trip!

and thanks for all the info here.. based off of what you all said, i really think it might have something to do with the tune being set until the first several drives or so. plus i have an SCT tuner that i'm going to unmarry from my V6 and grab that GT.. i think.. im still making a final decision on whether or not to jump to the GT in baltimore, but for that price i'm really getting a good deal i think.. thanks again everyone!
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:07 PM   #31
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maybe the 11 you drove had 3.73 in it so that take off felt harder and this one had 3.31 so it was smoother and not as punchy out the gate.
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The reason your six feels zippier is because I have yet to see a tuner who doesnt use the tip in throttle BS to make the car feel quicker downlow by running the throttlebody much closer to fully open than stock. You have to request them NOT to do it if you want any downlow throttle modulating ability otherwise it acts closer to an on off switch than a gas pedal.
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:09 AM   #32
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I use first gear at every light. Ford designed the 11 and 12 with the brembo and 3.73 gears in texas mind, it is the one they gave to every press and magazine (except car and driver? ) and it's the one with the fastest stock numbers, drive one and you'll tell, as for the power below 3,000 well thats part gearing and part the engine.. the super free flowing dohc design of this engine does not produce the off idle torque of lets say the camaro 6.2 because of design, however thats not bad if you consider all you get in return. Drive one with 3.73 gears then send us pictures when you get home with it.
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:36 AM   #33
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It takes dang near no time to get past 3k in any case when pushed... Personally I like the the little bit of modulation rooM
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:28 PM   #34
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Its the rear gears bro!! Trust me, I've been nothing but disappointed at how much of a slow turd my '13 GT is compared to all the others I test drove with 3.73's. Mine has the 3.31's. I fell in love with the mustang after test driving one with 3.73's. I located mine in another state because it was an unbeatable deal. After driving that far, I wasn't going to pass on the car because of the gears. I honestly didn't think it would be such a huge difference, but I was wrong. Let this be a lesson to everyone out there!!! 3.73's or die!

Now I'm not sure if I should go for a tune or new gears as my first mod. Anyone else been in this situation?
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solid.. the dealer and i looked at the window sticker and it did NOT have hillside assist mentioned on there. odd. but good to know that 2013's have that feature, so thanks for the info!

the acceleration though still leaves me baffled. i think im going to look around for a 2012 GT or something to see if it feels similarly. it's a financial investment to jump up to the V8, so i want to make sure that i know what i'm getting into. if it feels like that then i really think i'll stick with my v6... never thought i'd say that.

again, thanks for the hill assist info!
It's not an option, it's standard equipment. Maybe the rear brakes were sticking as well.

Any tuned car, v6, v8, I4 is going to have better throttle response than a stock car.
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Its the rear gears bro!! Trust me, I've been nothing but disappointed at how much of a slow turd my '13 GT is compared to all the others I test drove with 3.73's. Mine has the 3.31's. I fell in love with the mustang after test driving one with 3.73's. I located mine in another state because it was an unbeatable deal. After driving that far, I wasn't going to pass on the car because of the gears. I honestly didn't think it would be such a huge difference, but I was wrong. Let this be a lesson to everyone out there!!! 3.73's or die!

Now I'm not sure if I should go for a tune or new gears as my first mod. Anyone else been in this situation?
You're going to need both or your speedo will be way off, as well as your odometer.
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The reason your six feels zippier is because I have yet to see a tuner who doesnt use the tip in throttle BS to make the car feel quicker downlow by running the throttlebody much closer to fully open than stock. You have to request them NOT to do it if you want any downlow throttle modulating ability otherwise it acts closer to an on off switch than a gas pedal.
is this what gives you that quick punch that drops right off when you first hit the gas? Mine does it and I don't particularly care for it
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:36 AM   #39
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Fuel! The 2013 you drove could have had 87oct gas in it? They won't begin to hit the full factory 420 HP unless you use 93oct fuel for one thing. I thought my 2013 was on the sluggish side on the low end when it was new. Now at 2800 miles the car is frightfully quick and has mountains of torque down low. Other than a CAI and an axleback exhaust the car is stock with the original Ford tune. This car is making more power every other time I drive it to the point now I'm not sure I even WANT to tune it. I'm sure there would be improvements here and there but it would not be the beast of a tune the Ford engineers created for this car. Furthermore, I think my car is running a bit hotter than factory specs would suggest anyhow. If I'm wrong and my engine is typical then just freakin' buy you a 2013 GT and enjoy the best, strongest baadest Mustang GT ever!
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