TRexGAWD

Lol, ok big guy.. Decent numbers but you'll be about average with everyone else during indoc alone.. Just fair warning... you should prepare to fail and then what? You have car that's costing you more than a quarter of your paycheck every month.. If you make it good for you, if you don't though you need to have a plan. I wouldn't worry so much about getting my PAST times down either.. Endurance is where it's at and being able to last.. Not trying to talk you down, for all means go for it, but you shouldn't be carring about anything else right now but the next year of hell you're going to face to earn that beret.. Especially a car.

CMcNam

Yeah, it's not like we're already in the Air Force or anything, so what do we know right?

foolio2k4

wait for the 2015.

SpartaPerformance

14's will be exact same thing as 13's. The new stang is for 15 for 50th anniv. If the seats are the only problem why don't they just order a set of seats and swap them out if it's their **** up two times.

yourmyboybh1026

Well, I'm not going to tell you what to do but here is my experience:

I bought a 2009 right before I PCSed to Italy (in 2009). The payment was affordable, and the insurance in the US wasn't bad. When I got to Italy though, insurance was over $400. So if you go overseas, be prepared. While everyone was out traveling around, sometimes I had to chill since insurance and everything was about $800 a month. Luckily I didn't have kids or anything like that. While it was manageable, it still sucked. The only thing that saved me was a year long deployment. I was able to pay off the car then.

So if I had to do it all over again, and knew I was going to deploy for a year I would. Since the wars are winding down, and the deployments are getting shorter, I wouldn't. I would have waited.

Also, like others have said, don't count that $20k bonus as money in the bank yet. PJ is VERY hard. I have a few friends who tried it, one made it, several didn't. Just make sure you go in there in shape, mentally tough, and be ready to suck for a long time. Embrace the suck as they say.

Good luck

JonnyW

TRexGAWD and all the other servicemen on this site, I thank you all for your service. I'm not trying to 1UP anyone in any way, shape, or form. I've talked with my parents and listened to all of you guys, and I'm going to be able to pay off the car before I leave for basic, and my insurance will stay at $148 a month.
I've decided that I'm going to go ahead with the car and if I can't afford it, I have a buddy of mine that'll take it off my hands for what I paid.

TRexGAWD, can you give me any tips on my preparation and how/what I should be doing for training?
Also, I'm 5'11" @ 175lbs. What's a good weight to be at going into training? I've already gained 15 extra pounds in muscle since the beginning of the summer.

And random question, I just watched the movie Act Of Valor again and shouldn't pararescuemen have taken on the first hostage recovery mission the SEALs were assigned? By everything I've read, researched, and head from, pararescuemen are trained for CSAR and MedEvac, but they receive similar combat training as SEALs receive. Is this tried and true?

yourmyboybh1026

Wow if you can pay the car off before you leave I'd do it. I think the options you have on the car now are great and you'll like it.

Good luck with PJ.

As for your question, I'm not a PJ, but I have been around them a few times on deployment. PJs can attach to anyone like SEALs, CAG, SF, Rangers and all of those guys. There were several PJs in Mogadishu that weren't depicted in Black Hawk Down. They do receive some pretty high speed training so they can hold their own in a fight. They aren't made to assault a hostile objective to get a hostage out though. SEALs, CAG, maybe SF or Rangers would do that depending on how high up the food chain it needs to go. They might have a PJ with them to help out though. Either way, you are part of JSOC (correct me if I'm wrong), so you will do some pretty cool things.

Good luck.

TRexGAWD

Sorry for giving you a hard time, I just hear a lot of people that want in and say that they'll have no problem making it.. blah blah blah..

I don't have a link to it right now but when I find it I'll throw it up on here for you.. Basically it's an actual Army SF created preperation workout.. that will smoke your *** and have you at the top of your physical game within a few months.. I wouldn't focus so much on gaining muscle as you'll start to lose speed and endurance with that.. Lucky for me I was pretty lean and fast, now I'm more solid (190-200lbs at 5'8").. You really want to focus on core strenght, being able to support 100+ pounds of equipment hours on end.. and being able to run and swim for hours and hours.. I'll say this though, the physical is nothing. Anyone can be trained and prepared physically and can get through any physical challenge that is presented... It's the mental game that will F with you. I can't give tips on how to prepare for that, it's just a trait that some have and some don't. You have to have the mental fortitude to not break down and quit.. Most failures came from quitting while the rest came from injuries (sometimes **** happens, what can you say).. You will be stressed to your limit mentally, and then pushed beyond that limit. Some people cried, some became angry and hostile, some just gave up all hope... It's kinda cheesy but real, but watch surviving the cut: pararescue, if you haven't already.

As for your other question, SEALS are trained to do a lot!.. So are PJs but either can do search and rescue. And the similarities are dive and egress.. There are so many branch offs that can happen.. CSAR is just one avenue.


Ehhhh, don't really attach to Rangers.. Rangers have a specific duty and sometimes will work alongside but that's about it.. The way it breaks down is all of those mentioned plus others will combine and work in a TF.. each compenent doing a specific job... And they actually were depicted in the movie, just gotta keep a careful eye on it (watch for the part inside the crashed helo where the guy is serving up a "cocktail", ha)... And depending on the path that is given you could be on an assault/security team. ST is along those lines and go through every training possible in CQB... But like you said, either way you will learn stuff that will never be learned elsewhere..

IcanDrive55

He's not listening CMcNam lol.....in his defense, I wouldn't have listened to you at 19 either but your words are wise.

I would also have said if you HAVE to have it, get what you wanted, not what is convenient for the dealer.

157dB

Enlisted in it but cant spell it.
Sad Sad day for the armed forces???
You had better wait and buy when you can pay for it.
19 - young dumb and full of c@&.

Is there not a www. army enlistment forum .com this discussion can be transferred to?