I have a problem when filling the car with fuel
#1
I have a problem when filling the car with fuel
Hi.
When I fill the car with fuel/petrol/gas (not sure of the correct term tbh), I have this problem where the fuel just stops pumping and I have to keep pulling the "trigger" and it goes on this endless cycle of stop-and-go where it keeps automatically stopping and I have to keep pumping gas again.
This is kind of hard to explain I hope someone who has had the same problem can understand and help me with what's wrong and how to fix it?
Some people say it's because there's air inside the gas tank? I can only slightly pull on the trigger and pump gas I can't go all out because it'll automatically cut off and I have to keep pulling it again and keep pumping small bursts of fuel until I get the desired amount I want.
It helps when I only slightly put the tip into the fuel opening and let some room for air to come out but even still I can only slightly pull on the trigger.
Mechanics where I live are sort-of inexperienced and I wanted to know exactly what's wrong and exactly what I need to fix so I don't get cheated out of spending more money than I have to.
I hope I have made it clear enough
When I fill the car with fuel/petrol/gas (not sure of the correct term tbh), I have this problem where the fuel just stops pumping and I have to keep pulling the "trigger" and it goes on this endless cycle of stop-and-go where it keeps automatically stopping and I have to keep pumping gas again.
This is kind of hard to explain I hope someone who has had the same problem can understand and help me with what's wrong and how to fix it?
Some people say it's because there's air inside the gas tank? I can only slightly pull on the trigger and pump gas I can't go all out because it'll automatically cut off and I have to keep pulling it again and keep pumping small bursts of fuel until I get the desired amount I want.
It helps when I only slightly put the tip into the fuel opening and let some room for air to come out but even still I can only slightly pull on the trigger.
Mechanics where I live are sort-of inexperienced and I wanted to know exactly what's wrong and exactly what I need to fix so I don't get cheated out of spending more money than I have to.
I hope I have made it clear enough
#3
Yeah seems like that's the problem. Something's flowing backwards the wrong way activating the nozzle's sensor and turning it off (probably air or fuel).
It's really annoying because sometimes it can take a lot longer than it should to fill your tank especially when you're in a hurry.
It's really annoying because sometimes it can take a lot longer than it should to fill your tank especially when you're in a hurry.
#4
Well documented problem with the unusual "split" design of the S197 gas tanks I believe. Mine does it very rarely as well, Ford never really came out with a fix as it was an inherent design flaw with the gas tanks. A quick fix would be to simply tilt the nozzle when fueling, and that will fix it about 99% of the time (I've rarely had it prematurely cut off when I tilted it).
I believe there is a TSB on it, but quite vague on the fix other than to get the entire tank replaced (and unless you're under warranty, I would skip that since it might not completely fix the problem and you'll be out some major cash). LINK
I believe there is a TSB on it, but quite vague on the fix other than to get the entire tank replaced (and unless you're under warranty, I would skip that since it might not completely fix the problem and you'll be out some major cash). LINK
#5
6th Gear Member
Yes, there is a TSB on it and about 1/3 - 1/2 of theforum experiences it. It's related to Ford's wonderful saddle tank design. Even the fix in the TSB hardly resolves it.
Try slowing the flow rate, pulling the pump neck a little bit out of the filler tube (don't "bottom it out"), try different pumps (some are more sensitive than others)...
Try slowing the flow rate, pulling the pump neck a little bit out of the filler tube (don't "bottom it out"), try different pumps (some are more sensitive than others)...
#6
Well documented problem with the unusual "split" design of the S197 gas tanks I believe. Mine does it very rarely as well, Ford never really came out with a fix as it was an inherent design flaw with the gas tanks. A quick fix would be to simply tilt the nozzle when fueling, and that will fix it about 99% of the time (I've rarely had it prematurely cut off when I tilted it).
I believe there is a TSB on it, but quite vague on the fix other than to get the entire tank replaced (and unless you're under warranty, I would skip that since it might not completely fix the problem and you'll be out some major cash). LINK
I believe there is a TSB on it, but quite vague on the fix other than to get the entire tank replaced (and unless you're under warranty, I would skip that since it might not completely fix the problem and you'll be out some major cash). LINK
Gonna try that out and hope it works
#7
Yes, there is a TSB on it and about 1/3 - 1/2 of theforum experiences it. It's related to Ford's wonderful saddle tank design. Even the fix in the TSB hardly resolves it.
Try slowing the flow rate, pulling the pump neck a little bit out of the filler tube (don't "bottom it out"), try different pumps (some are more sensitive than others)...
Try slowing the flow rate, pulling the pump neck a little bit out of the filler tube (don't "bottom it out"), try different pumps (some are more sensitive than others)...
#8
6th Gear Member
I've had to resort to turning the pump handle 45-90 degrees to one side. Others claim 180 degrees works for them. I even considered standing on my head and spitting nickles...
#9
#10
Speaking from my Honda training, There are valves in the tank to help control evaporative emissions and the training said that if a customer complains of this the valves may be sticking or not working properly. Didnt go much into detail about it, but on the Honda's most require a new tank since the valves are not available separately.
My 5.0 has this problem but usually just pulling the nozzle out and slowly pumping works. Havent ran into this problem with the Boss yet.
My 5.0 has this problem but usually just pulling the nozzle out and slowly pumping works. Havent ran into this problem with the Boss yet.