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derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 03:54 AM

Bought a '06 supercharged mustang. Questions
 
Normally, I would never think about buying a used car with a supercharger, but this thing looks CLEAN. Now keep in mind, I'm still deployed overseas. I had my dad go look at it and get it for me. He knows his way around cars and I would trust me with anything.
Anyway, here are the details on the car:

2006 Mustang GT w/ 74k miles
Previous owner bought from dealership and drove it for 3 months
He also purchased a 2 year aftermarket warranty, so there's 21 months left on it
Interior is extremely clean
Was told that the engine was stroked to 5.0L and that it had forged internals. No paperwork

Here's what it has:
Vortech V2 supercharger
Snow Performance Method. Injection
Diablo MAFia MAF tuner
3.73 gears
O/R Xpipe
Magnaflow exhaust
SCT tuner
Pillar-mounted boost, wideband gauges
Steeda 18" chrome wheels with Nitto 555's
Steeda lowering springs
Backup camera

And rewired audio:
2 12" stubs (haven't asked what brand...didn't care)
7" touchscreen head unit

He says it pushes 450rwhp at 14 p.s.i.
The main reason I got it is because of the warranty. Can't go wrong right?
Just wondering what are some things to check for? I won't be home for a couple months, but would like to get a list started.
Change spark plugs, oil, trans. fluid? What else should I do?
And I also think there's more to the car than what the guy knew of.
What should I look for?

Thanks

moosestang 04-28-2013 06:48 AM

I don't know what to say. Don't buy a car in the states while you are stationed over seas. I would have to see a car like that in person and drive it before buying.

Why would someone buy a car and then sell it in 3 months? Because there is something wrong with it.

I would want to verify it actually has forged internals by pulling the oil pan or possibly putting a camera in the spark plug hole. You can get a cheap usb camera on amazon.com that will at least tell you if the pistons are stock.


Aftermarket warranties are usually garbage and I doubt they'd cover anything related to the blower.

14psi would be well over 450rwhp, even with a lower compression engine, especially if it's stroked. Meth injection? No intercooler/heat exchanger?

Just trying to keep it real, not trying to rain on your parade.

derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 07:00 AM

Yes I'll admit it was dumb. It seems too good to be true as well. The guy that bought it has kids and the wife said it was his mid-life crisis. Sounded like bull****. But I got my dad to go look at it a couple times and drive it. He knows a lot more about cars than me. He said it looked like and drove like a brand new car. Honestly, the warranty is what really made me want it. I hope it covers some things. Hmm. He also said the previous owner went through a divorce, wife took the car to dealership and traded it in..etc.
I don't know. We'll see how it goes

derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 07:35 AM

https://plus.google.com/photos/10708...170?banner=pwa

Here's the engine bay

derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 07:39 AM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...0/IMG_3681.JPG

outceltj 04-28-2013 09:51 AM

I'm running about 9.5 psi at 450

moosestang 04-28-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by derboesekoenig (Post 8202765)

Any more pictures of it? Did the guy have it on craigslist. I wouldn't say it was dumb, I just hope you didn't pay extra expecting a built motor.

The part about the built motor, meth injection, 14psi and 450rwhp rubs me the wrong way.

It's possible the guy doesn't know how much power or boost it's making. My guess is someone put the non-intercooled vortech on and wanted more power, so added the meth injection and 10psi pulley. That's the cheapest/easiest way to add more boost.

Anyway, I'd want to make sure it is a built motor before pushing any more power through it.

CMcNam 04-28-2013 12:43 PM

Currently deployed as well, but I can tell you about one of my sergeants who did exactly this same thing (even had the same supercharger). Came back and showed me his awesome supercharged GT and wanted to race me. He blew up his engine and sold it a couple weeks later. I wouldn't do it.

Needless to say, I won that race.

It may seem like too good a deal to pass up right now, but just wait until your deployment is over. It's better to wait and know for sure then to be impatient and wind up with a lump of useless metal on your hands. There will be other deals that are too good to pass up when you get back.

moosestang 04-28-2013 01:20 PM

So how much was it?

derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 01:41 PM

Didn't seem like the guy knew a whole lot. But he took care of it. Definitely showed. I actually wanted to tone it down some. Like 400rwhp. I'll try to get more pictures.

Just under $14k

derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 02:18 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...o/IMAG1082.jpg

Any advice for me would be much appreciated.

CMcNam 04-28-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosestang (Post 8202751)
I don't know what to say. Don't buy a car in the states while you are stationed over seas. I would have to see a car like that in person and drive it before buying.

Why would someone buy a car and then sell it in 3 months? Because there is something wrong with it.

I would want to verify it actually has forged internals by pulling the oil pan or possibly putting a camera in the spark plug hole. You can get a cheap usb camera on amazon.com that will at least tell you if the pistons are stock.

Aftermarket warranties are usually garbage and I doubt they'd cover anything related to the blower.

14psi would be well over 450rwhp, even with a lower compression engine, especially if it's stroked. Meth injection? No intercooler/heat exchanger?

Just trying to keep it real, not trying to rain on your parade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMcNam (Post 8202944)
It may seem like too good a deal to pass up right now, but just wait until your deployment is over. It's better to wait and know for sure then to be impatient and wind up with a lump of useless metal on your hands. There will be other deals that are too good to pass up when you get back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by derboesekoenig (Post 8203010)
Any advice for me would be much appreciated.

Don't know what else to say. Nearly every response after this will probably say the same thing. If you just can't wait, check the engine's condition. Pictures of the outside of the car, or even the engine, aren't going to tell us what's going on inside. Even if it's in good condition, you should still wait until you get home.

808muscle 04-28-2013 02:50 PM

No way do you buy it without driving it yourself. $14k may seem like a great deal but if its fubar you just lost $14k. Can you afford that? Can you afford a new motor if this one goes? No intercooler.......scary!!

derboesekoenig 04-28-2013 02:58 PM

Could I just put in an intercooler and new pulley?

808muscle 04-28-2013 03:13 PM

Here are two options. The most important thing with FI is the tune. You need to verify this car is tuned properly.



http://www.brenspeed.com/v3houpgrade.html

http://www.brenspeed.com/airtoairupgrade.html

derboesekoenig 04-29-2013 06:22 AM

I had planned on taking it to get dyno tuned. I just thought that since it had the methanol injection, it would keep it cool enough. I don't even plan on ever running this car hard. Would it be alright without an intercooler? Are they difficult to install?

Ford-a-tude 04-29-2013 11:58 AM

Okay, here's my 2 cents. Yes it happens, people make impulse buys without thinking it through all the time. I bought a used, supercharged Mustang off the dealers lot myself. Luckily it had only one previous owner who was cool enough to contact me and give me everything he still had for the car after the sale.

What I learned is that this guy was a fanatic and took fantastic care of the vehicle. This showed in the outward appearance of the body, paint etc. That's a good sign that it didn't belong to a 16 year old kid who wailed on the motor. If the vehicle has an SCT tuner then perhaps there is some way to track down who tuned it by using the device serial number. Whoever tuned it should have knowledge or records of mods that were done to the motor.

That being said, in the coming months of ownership I found vacuum leaks all over. I eventually pulled the inlet tube to the supercharger and found some oil. Turns out that was a leaking oil seal. Next season a bearing went out in the Vortech. Related? Who knows. Point is, even if it was babied things still will go wrong.

Prowl around the forums. Chances are the original owner has been online while building it, or maybe someone will recognize the car and have some info.

Good luck whatever you decide. If it were me, I'd go over it with a fine tooth comb and probably take everything apart before I would trust it.

mighted1987 04-29-2013 12:37 PM

Sound like my story, except i bought it 10k more then you, and had a billions problems and prolly put around 8k on it in repair and fixing, just hope everything go fine for you, this ruined my last summer dramaticly, it finally run great but cant forget what happened before.

derboesekoenig 04-29-2013 12:40 PM

I guess I will try and track down the guy who tuned it and see what information I can get.

jz 05-01-2013 09:50 PM

I would think the warranty is a wash on that car. I've bought aftermarket warranties in the past and they have all been very specific when it comes to modifications...Void of warranty. They have had no problems replacing stuff that was factory, or factory replacement parts. But in all of the fine print I read the same thing over and over again. Modifications = no warranty.


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