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Castles&Crooks 06-24-2014 04:44 PM

Car totalled - Looking for repair help
Hello everyone, joining new to the forum today. Recently, on my way to the store while I was driving my 2005 mustang GT, I happened to be quickly cut off by a reckless driver who ended up wrecking the front of my car. Fault was unable to be placed (lack of witnesses) leading us to have our own insurances cover it and unfortunately in my case me paying it out of pocket.

Right after the accident it didn't seem to bad, the headlights were fine, the grille seemed alright, hood replaceable and nothing horribly wrong, but I was worried because after trying to start my car to move it off the road, the car would start, but when shifted to drive would shortly after turn back off..

After the tow got to the shop, the head mechanic told me 9 grand of damage. Starting, but of that $4500 was labor. He told me that the radiator had exploded, the AC condenser was gone, the bumper and hood had to be replaced, the rad support had to be replaced but besides that, he couldn't see any damage to the engine or the frame whatsoever. The second mechanic said the same thing. He did also tell me that a few things (foglights?) were hard to get for the year, and I would be paying more for the parts (ya right) - but fortunately I had previously seen them online for cheaper. So now my car sits in my garage looking sad. While I wait to seek a professionals opinion, I would love any other thoughts or input and from what you guys have read here and what you will see below, what do you think is in need of repair? Right side (untouched) Grille Left side (Hit) Car from the side, engine seemed a bit pushed up, problem? Top of rad Across Rad Looking back at rad

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks in advance.
P.S. Airbags never went of and left hand panel moved a fraction.

Castles&Crooks 06-24-2014 04:48 PM

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CPTCO 06-24-2014 05:00 PM

Man, that is just awful. If I was you, first thing I would do is pull the front bumper off. That is a relatively quick and easy job. That will give you access to the radiator, condenser, etc. some parts, hood, fogs, grill, bumper, etc. can easily be found from aftermarket vendors or a junkyard. Call around auto salvage yards to see if you can find a donor. Who knows you might even find a silver one.
Hopefully you are mechanically inclined, that will save you the majority of the labor. In the end, you might need to pay for paint and getting the body panels aligned, all that good stuff. But it looks doable to me.
Not sure about keeping it running once it starts, but I'm sure someone will weigh in.

tbear853 06-24-2014 11:24 PM

I bought a '03 Subaru Forester with low miles and an written estimate of $4400 damage for $3500 in 2007, I fixed it myself with all Subaru parts and got a local paint shop to paint a new hood and fender to match my old wrinkled one ..... total outlay was about 1/2 of the estimate. Used a come along and chain bolted to places to pull inner fender and rad support in line using a post in concrete as an anchor.

Depends on your skill or that of friends and deals you can make, but that car looks very fixable.

jimkaray 06-24-2014 11:53 PM

Sounds/looks like everything but the rad support is simple bolt on repair. You have your estimates so that is going to be at least 90% of what you will need, no need to guess. The challenge is the rad support. You may be able to straighten it to where its close enough but it doesn't sound like you have the experience or tools for that. Source the parts and do as much labor as you can and that will save a lot of money.
I would start by getting all the front end off and all the broken parts out off. Then beat the rad support into shape to where you can mount a new rad. Once you have a working radiator the car can be driven (hopefully fan is OK). That will save you a tow once you find a shop that will do the work you can't do.

AzPete 06-25-2014 07:39 AM

Not having the air intake attached to the engine may be why it does not stay running. Also, there is a fuel shut off that activates from the shock of a hit.

drfister 06-25-2014 03:10 PM

Jeez, that sucks. I have a stock hood from a 2005 if you need I can hook you up with. Good luck with the repairs.

pascal 06-25-2014 06:17 PM

There isn't $9000 with the damage on that car, certainly not $4500 in labor. lol
Your mechanic is full of shat.
When your Ins. comes up and does an estimate of repair, it'll probably be around $5500, if that.
They'll write for aftermarket parts and it will cut the cost significantly.
The most expensive item is the hood.
The OEM retails about $1700 last time I checked. It would be the perfect opportunity to go with a nice aftermarket one like Cervini for about $500 or so.

Anyway, good luck with the repairs...

Shampue 06-26-2014 01:19 PM

Im not understanding what you mean by paying out of pocket for the repairs. Did you not have insurance to cover the accident?

Cruzinaround 06-26-2014 01:50 PM

Do a search for an entire front end clip from Junkyards and Salvage yards. You might be pleasantly surprised.

It would also be cheaper to buy an entire used high mileage entire spare Mustang of the same year for parts. Then junk what you no longer need.


jester0618 06-26-2014 03:29 PM

AZ Pete is right. If the intake pipe contained the MAF, and now it's not there, won't run very well if at all.

stangdriver2007 07-04-2014 09:10 AM

Why are u having to pay out of your pocket? Did u not have insurance which I'm guessing is the case since that's how u described it. Well if u didn't have insurance it's ur own fault and won't get any sympathy from me.

Max_Apex 07-04-2014 10:11 AM

Where's the rest of the story? I'm finding it hard to believe the stang took this hard of a punch in the face, from being cut off. I also find it hard to believe you didn't get ticketed for rear ending someone. The law always finds the car that rear ends another, at fault, because A) your supposed to follow at a safe enough distance to stop in an emergency, and B) you should be traveling at a speed at which you can reduce speed to avoid an accident.
Both of which, you should have been ticketed for.
So, pardon me if this story sounds like bs. Maybe if you clarified, it would make sense. Add to that, your out of pocket costs. Did you not have insurance? If you did, the most out of pocket, you be dealing with is $500-$1500, depending on your deductable. Lastly, if the damage is that high, the insurance will just cut you a check for the value of the car, rather than fix it because the cost of fixing it is more than the cars value.

tbear853 07-05-2014 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by Max_Apex (Post 8405947)
... etc ...
The law always finds the car that rear ends another, at fault, because A) your supposed to follow at a safe enough distance to stop in an emergency, and B) you should be traveling at a speed at which you can reduce speed to avoid an accident. ... etc ...

Not so .... not with my agency or the guys I worked with. I'll agree that if one had to guess, the one behind is likely at fault because more often than not, they are at fault .... but you don't guess on accident investigations and I can recall a few where the rear car's driver didn't get a ticket because it wasn't their fault or because the driver ahead had far greater culpability.


Max_Apex 07-05-2014 05:24 AM

I could elaborate more on this, but it's a moot point. The op is canadian, so who knows what kund of laws they have there. The U.S, has 12 no-fault states, in which, neither driver gets ticketed, provided they have insurance. Any other state, the rear driver gets ticketed. They do have a small chance of beating the ticket, due to extenuating circumstances, but those are few and far between. Why? Because the umbrella of, "reducing speed to avoid an accident", and "maintaining a safe following distance", cast a big shadow. There are very few excuses or circumstances that would negate those.
Ask me how I know this? Here's a clue....I've been in my profession for 13 years.

Murgatroy 07-05-2014 05:58 AM

He could have had liability only, which would mean he is out of pocket to repair.

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