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Living with an S197? What's it really like?

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Old 07-31-2014, 03:22 AM   #1
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Hi everyone,

Need some honest feedback here. I maybe in the market for a used S197 on the proviso that my young family can use it. Also it is impossible for me to go to my local Ford dealer to sit in one or test drive etc as I am in China. Here are my major questions...

1) Can someone approx 6 foot 6 inchs tall drive this thing comfortably?
2) Can the avg American adults actually sit in the 2 rear seats (while adults sit in the front seats)?
3) Does the rear seat compartment have safety seat points (anchor points for booster seats)?

I know these questions seem a little strange, but keep in mind Im an Aussie (we dont get the Mustang til next year and we wont ever get the S197 obviously) and so have not ever had access to one. My family is living in China for the next few years, and I don't want to buy a shopping trolley of a car if I can help it. And finally having a pretty stock Aussie muscle car capable of 0 - 60mph in 5sec dead (every day of the week), living with a frustrating and boring 'A to B car' will bore me to tears.

There are quite a few S197s here believe it or not, and I would jump at one in a heart beat but there is no way I want the hassle and costs of buying two cars (A - B and a toy) if I can make one Stang work let alone the grief from my wife.

Any help, experience, advice (within my question parameters) is welcome.

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Old 07-31-2014, 03:57 AM   #2
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i'm 6 foot 1 and fit easily
the rear seats are pretty good..i can fit in them..

try and get as late a model as u can..from 2010 they improved the car so much in every way...the 2005 to 2009 kinda remind me of a 1978 ford granada....hard but true..my 2010 feels like a bmw or mercedes in comparison..

dont expect any of these mustangs to handle well..high speed they are not very stable at all..if your used to driving bmw audi or mercedes i feel u may be disapointed tbh..
crude is a word i would use to describe a s197..
ancient susspension system on these is a disgrace on ford...to make such a nice looking car and then give it 1975 susspension is kinda bad all imho ofc
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1) Can someone approx 6 foot 6 inchs tall drive this thing comfortably?

Yes

2) Can the avg American adults actually sit in the 2 rear seats (while adults sit in the front seats)?

No

3) Does the rear seat compartment have safety seat points (anchor points for booster seats)?

Not sure
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:18 AM   #4
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Does the rear seat compartment have safety seat points (anchor points for booster seats)?

Yes
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:24 AM   #5
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i'm 6 foot 1 and fit easily
the rear seats are pretty good..i can fit in them..

try and get as late a model as u can..from 2010 they improved the car so much in every way...the 2005 to 2009 kinda remind me of a 1978 ford granada....hard but true..my 2010 feels like a bmw or mercedes in comparison..

dont expect any of these mustangs to handle well..high speed they are not very stable at all..if your used to driving bmw audi or mercedes i feel u may be disapointed tbh..
crude is a word i would use to describe a s197..
ancient susspension system on these is a disgrace on ford...to make such a nice looking car and then give it 1975 susspension is kinda bad all imho ofc
Thanks for your very helpful response!

My car back home is a hot turbo straight 6 Falcon (photos in the introduce yourself section from last year) with the IRS adapted from a Jag when Ford owned them and from (I'm told) the Mondeo/Fusion. So yes its a very capable rear end but at 1800kg it is not in the same league as a Euro sports car. And the with 'unique' traffic conditions here in China going quickly is not really an option.

Nice to know you fit comfortably in the drivers seat and back seats. They look rather short in the foot well room dept, but the base of the rear seats look quite allot longer than what I'm used to seeing. And the head room for someone as tall as yourself is a little surprising to be honest! Any idea why DCarlin has a different opinion to your own about the seating?

Any idea about child seat anchor points?

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1) Can someone approx 6 foot 6 inchs tall drive this thing comfortably?

Yes

2) Can the avg American adults actually sit in the 2 rear seats (while adults sit in the front seats)?

No

3) Does the rear seat compartment have safety seat points (anchor points for booster seats)?

Not sure
Thanks for your succinct answers! Could you clarify the difference between Rudolf's comments about space in the rear seat and yours? What is the problem with the space with 4 adults in the car?
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Thanks WayKool!!! Really appreciated!
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I just realised that this is in the wrong area... sorry but I guess I'm not asking anything relating to the engine...
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:21 AM   #8
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I'm 6'4" tall and i find the car very comfortable. Even with a manual. But my kids barely fir in the back. I do have a car seat in mine most of the time though.
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The rear seat have anchor points for the Latch system. (two in the seat and one behind)

Installing the seat can be a pain but it can be done just make sure that you put a seat protector down first to project the seats as you have to tighten them really well.

A forward facing car seat or booster seat will fit fine in there. My 3 almost 4 year old son rides in mine with me from time to time. His little brother is close to being able to ride as well.

Some peaple say a rear facing can work but none of the ones I have seen or used will fit. It requires the passenger seat to be way forward.

As far as adults sitting in the rear... well it depends on the adult. Its a tight fit which some dont mind and others can't stand.
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i have been in the back no probs
wot u expect from a coupe semi sports car?
way better than a corvette aye lol
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The rear seat isn't comfortable for any one of my 4 dogs. I know that i'm cramped in the back seat and I'm only 5' 8". Other than being a cop magnet, the S197 is super fun (if it's a V8).
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was out today in ours in town
EVERYWHERE we go people stop me and say wow nice car mr...
i heard 3 small kids say to their dad..wow dad look at that mustang..i called em over and said come sit in it...
in europe they are a very very special car for sure.
we took it for it's yearly inspection today..some ole fella said that car must have cost you 100k lol...
for the money it costs it's an amazing buy..plus they really hold their value well..in fact depretiation here in sweden is almost nothing.
probably the same in oz land..
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I'm 6'-3" (all legs). I have to have the seat all the way back, so there is about an inch of clearance from the back of my seat to the front of the rear seat. No one is gonna fit behind me. (luckily I have long arms too, if I had t-rex arms, I wouldn't be able to reach the steering wheel). However, for me, it is comfortable. And there are anchor points in the rear.
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Could you clarify the difference between Rudolf's comments about space in the rear seat and yours? What is the problem with the space with 4 adults in the car?
Your question was about American adults. So, that is what I based my answer on. I would not want to sit back there for any length of time. Can you do it ... yes. Is it comfortable ... no. I am 5'-11' and when my driver seat it where I want it to be, it is only about 3 inches from the back seat. Putting a couple kids back there would be reasonable. But, no adult will want to be there for long and the driver will have to move forward to the point I would consider it uncomfortable operating the clutch. But, I am 49 years old and have had back surgery in the past. Maybe I am a bad example.

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Your question was about American adults. So, that is what I based my answer on. I would not want to sit back there for any length of time. Can you do it ... yes. Is it comfortable ... no. I am 5'-11' and when my driver seat it where I want it to be, it is only about 3 inches from the back seat. Putting a couple kids back there would be reasonable. But, no adult will want to be there for long and the driver will have to move forward to the point I would consider it uncomfortable operating the clutch. But, I am 49 years old and have had back surgery in the past. Maybe I am a bad example.

^^^ This. I'm 5'6" and I don't like sitting in the back seat. Even with me in the front seat, there is very little space between the back of the seat and the front lip of the seat in back. Small kids would be fine back there.

I do not consider the mustang a 4 adult seater car. Two adults or two adults and two small children at the most. Oh, and if you're talking about American sized adults, two adults only!
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Being 6'4" myself, I can tell you leg room isn't an issue, but watch your right knee when you get in the car!

I wasn't used to having that corner on the center console right in front of the e-brake handle, and I banged my knee on it a couple times while getting in and I'm pretty sure I bruised my kneecap. Frickin' hurts.

Also you'll find that if you're wearing jeans, the seam on the outside of the leg will probably bother you some because it will rub your leg while driving.

As for rear seat room...yeah, no. I have to put the seat all the way back and I'd say there's maybe 4 inches between it and the rear seat. Now maybe if you had somebody under 5'5" in the passenger seat it might be doable there.

Oh- and I love the compliments I get in this car. Random kids on the street yell out "Nice Mustang!" or "I like your car!"
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Let's not kid anyone. Trying to fit anything bigger than a poodle in the back seat would be considered torture.
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If it's going to be the family's only car I wouldn't. Pulling the seats forward and car seats every time you park would get old. If it isn't I don't see a problem if that doesn't bother you. As far as being 6'6" that's not a big issue for legroom as a driver
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1.) Yes
2.) No, and definitely not with a 6' 6" adult in the front seat.
3.) Yes

This car is very easy to live with. Maintenance is easy and rare. As far as the dated suspension, with a few simple mods I manage to keep up with cars significantly more expensive and complex than mine. Catches a lot of people by surprise.
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OK. Thanks. I think from all your comments I can deduce that...

1. I will more than likely fit comfortably. Good to know.

2. There is space, but not for medium to large adults. Kids seems to be ok including a booster seat (which is what my 3 year old is using due to his height) but it could be a bit annoying long term.

3. There are all the safety points I need.

Now I need to work out if the restrictions in back seat space are a deal breaker or if I can live with it so that I can own another "bucket list" car and be in something interesting in a sea of boring cars over in China.
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