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Old 02-08-2015, 11:29 AM
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Default 2014 Supercharged GT/CS Stalling @ stops

I know there are lots of threads that ask about the stalling at stops and hunting idle issues. But I haven't seen any that fit my situation, So I have to ask here. Sorry about the long post.

2014 Mustang GT/CS Manual Trans
VMP Stage 3 Supercharger Kit w/ID1000 inj. Dual 67mm T.B. 123mm JLT CAI. B.A.P.
Roush axlebacks.

When I had the Kit installed (by a friend that owns a shop), the car ran great and still actually does. I data logged and sent Justin the info and he sent me an updated 93 tune. Shortly after I installed the tune I was driving to work and I Threw a DTC P219a (Air/Fuel Imbalance in bank a). Checked code and found it would cause no harm, Car ran fine, So I cleared the code and went on my way. It popped 2 more times.
I had my installer check for vacuum leaks and he found nothing.

So I put the original tune back in and noticed the RPMs would drop hard when I pushed in the clutch to coast to a stop, then it started to stall here and there. The car idles fine otherwise & has all the power but if I tap the gas it will hunt a little, go up to 2k drop down to 300-500 then back up to about 1100 then settle in to normal ( have idle set to 850).

One thing I did notice is the voltage would drop from 14.4v to 12.03 during stops.

Justin has been excellent working with me to figure this out, I understand that some people have fixed the issue, but they never state how or what was the cause.

ANYONE HAVE ANY CLUES?
I did the idle relearn 3 separate times, KAM Resets and Throttle relearns, Cleaned T.B.
Car is at shop again getting checked for leaks, TPS Voltage and malfunctioning fuel injectors.

Thanks for any suggestions!!!

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Old 02-10-2015, 11:38 PM
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It's the tune. Needs to be logged, dyno'd and the tune figured out.

Otherwise it would be metered or unmetered air getting in or out. But I doubt that. You would have other issues.
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Simon1
It's the tune. Needs to be logged, dyno'd and the tune figured out.

Otherwise it would be metered or unmetered air getting in or out. But I doubt that. You would have other issues.

Ditto..you gotta datalog it.
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:36 AM
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Thanks for responding.
I have datalogged the issue and he has said everything is within range.

Think dyno tuning would be needed?
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If you haven't dyno tuned it I sure would. I have heard of guys having issues with TB but that was the 05 to 10 so im not sure it would be the same for you. I wouldn't hesitate to maybe have another tuner look at the datalog that you have already done. I had an issue with the cams after I had them installed where the car would hunt as well. The tune needed a revision and solved my problem. So I to think its the tune. Its your car so don't feel like you cant go to another tuner to try and solve your issue.

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Old 04-28-2015, 11:56 PM
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So I got the problem fixed after many, many talks, emails and, Updated tunes with Justin at VMP Tuning, on a whim I reinstalled my stock tune. DIDN'T Drive the car. I just started it and rev'd it a few times and each time it settled back to idle perfectly. So I emailed Justin and told him what I did and he sent me a new tune that almost fixed the problem. Only issue we will deal with is when I push in the clutch at a low rpm say between 1500-2000 the idle will dip a little bit below idle, BUT DOESN'T STALL!!!!

Thanks again everyone for the input.
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Originally Posted by HeLL-SPaWN
So I got the problem fixed after many, many talks, emails and, Updated tunes with Justin at VMP Tuning, on a whim I reinstalled my stock tune. DIDN'T Drive the car. I just started it and rev'd it a few times and each time it settled back to idle perfectly. So I emailed Justin and told him what I did and he sent me a new tune that almost fixed the problem. Only issue we will deal with is when I push in the clutch at a low rpm say between 1500-2000 the idle will dip a little bit below idle, BUT DOESN'T STALL!!!!

Thanks again everyone for the input.
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Some of that is till tuning. Some of it will be learned after the car runs for a bit, some of it won't. I have been told by a few tuners to let the car warm up a bit after a reflash and to let idle with the AC on. Seems to make a difference. I know if I turn my AC on in my car it does run slightly different.
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Old 04-29-2015, 12:18 PM
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Justin turned the adaptive learning off after the 4th try. I just asked hime to re-engage all the features he turned off.
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