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Old 10-25-2009, 12:31 AM   #1
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My Dad freaked out after I told him how much it would cost *ME* to do an ARH longtube system and have them installed and dynotuned ($2300) so I have a backup plan. Suspension! What do ya think? Feel free to pick it apart and help me out. I want to spend around $1500 give or take a 100 or so.

1) Tokico D-Spec Adjustable Strut & Shock Kit (94-04 excl. IRS Cobra) ($536.99)
http://www.americanmuscle.com/tokico...trut-9404.html

2) H&R Super Sport Springs (96-04 GT/V6) ($249.99)
http://www.americanmuscle.com/h-r-sp...ngs-96-04.html

3) Maximum Motorsports Caster/Camber Plates (94-04) ($189.99)
http://www.americanmuscle.com/maximu...tes-94-04.html

4) Steeda Tubular Front Sway Bar (94-04) ($179.95)
http://www.americanmuscle.com/sttufrswbar.html

5) Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Sway Bar (79-04) ($169.99)
http://www.americanmuscle.com/steeda...ybar-7904.html

6) BBK Rear Upper & Lower Control Arm Kit (99-04) ($309.99)
http://www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-up...larm-9904.html

7) Steeda Two Point Strut Tower Brace (03-04 Mach 1) ($99.99)
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:35 AM   #2
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No matter if I think exhaust or suspension is the better choice, I say get the one you'd like to have more. If the one you really want is breaking the budget, just save up a little longer. Spending money on second choices makes the first choices even further out of reach in the future. That is a great sounding suspension set-up if you decide to go that route. Don't rule out Steeda subframes with the additional center brace as well.
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Also keep in mind that you don't have to do the exhaust all at one time. Just remembered SLP X-pipes are 3 piece fitting both stock manifolds and LT headers so you don't necessarily have to drop a butt-load of cash all at once. Not to mention, a dyno tune is surely recommended with LTs, but it's not an absolute immediate necessity so you can wait till your done with the exhaust to get that done. With my tight budget I've always had to follow the old Johnny Cash song "One piece at a time". I think full exhaust yields more enjoyment for the majority of us who don't go flying around corners, but really not trying to sway you either way. Just don't want you spending $1600 then regretting not getting what you wanted to do first.
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:30 AM   #4
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and you could also keep your eyes out on the many different forums, and ebay for used headers. I just bought used kooks for my my 04 cobra engine, Got $400 off their original price and they are in PERFECT condition.
Also you would be fine without a dyno tune if all you are doing is exhaust
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:35 PM   #5
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The thing is, if I did the exhaust, I want ARH which I would have to do all at once and this is my DD so I would have to borrow my Dads truck while it is in the shop... So even if I can afford it, which I certainly can, my Dad has to agree or else he will not lend me his truck lol. He just cannot justify spending any amount of money on anything that is not hid jeep lol, he wants me to save my money. Another thing is I would be doing suspension in the future anyways and this will give me a chance to buy wheels and tires as well(which I need) after winter, which I would be fine with. I want to do both, each have a different kind of awesomeness to them so I dont think I will regret either one.
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Will I need spring isolators?
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:45 PM   #7
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talking about the spring isolator cups? the plastic pieces right? ya you should get new ones.
and why not get a turbo kit for your exhaust
and do it yourself! its not THAT bad, and you save an A$$ load of money
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Yeah agree w/ kweb288 on the isos, definately get new ones instead of using the factory ones. The H&R gives a substantial drop using the isos, so no reason to leave them off. Good luck with the project, you should have one sweet corner-carving driving MACHine (damn I'm good!) when all's said and done. Pics ofcourse when she's ready, or ban!
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Ha. My Dad is still freaking out, says he needs a week to think about it... I have no clue what that will do besides make me wait... Its not like he is paying for it. Well see what happens I guess.
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Ha. My Dad is still freaking out, says he needs a week to think about it... I have no clue what that will do besides make me wait... Its not like he is paying for it. Well see what happens I guess.
Yeah, he just wants what's best for ya. You know how ma & pas can be. Have you thought about maybe doing a little on each end at a time. Like get what you need to drop her (cc plates, isos and springs) and a midpipe. Maybe going that route could sound better to da folks. Best of luck though, I know exactly what you're going through. Actually, just married for 1st time a few weeks ago so I'm going through it a second time. What she don't know don't hurt though, like the used LTs and catted x I just bought!
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i know how that goes man!

Back in the day i had to do the same thing, even though i was making all the money, and it was my car EVERY project had to be cleared with the pop's!

and you should really consider doing it yourself
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i tell you what, to save you a little bit of money and to make your car actually handle, just go with the Eibach Sway bar kit, then get the H&R Race Spring set both from Tirerack. i got them both cheaper shipped to my door from tirerack than i could from latemodelrestoration or any other online store. keep everything on the list you have, sounds like a great setup. i have both the eibach sways and the Race springs and im very happy with the handling and the ride.
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and you should really consider doing it yourself
I'm going to...with help.
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Ha! Yeah I seen your post, the week I dont look those are posted and you ****** them up lol. Dont you have to drop the engine/ front suspension down or something like that to do the install? I would rather they do it so if I have a problem I can take it back and say hey whats this about. My Dad wants to see if he can find a place to install them for a little cheaper. He also asked why I had to dyno tune it, its because it leans out the engine a little right? I'm sure it does more than that but it deff wouldnt run right without a dyno tune, correct? I could save a little money by doing MAC or something but I dont really want to compromise on something this difficult ya know, it would suck to do it all over again. All I know is that im dumping some money into my car one way or another lol. He cant get away with buying a winch and lift kit and mud terrains for his DD jeep and then tell me I dont need exhaust for my mustang lol. I also sold my quad so I could do this and then after it sells he says I cant do it, wtf! lol.
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Ha! Yeah I seen your post, the week I dont look those are posted and you ****** them up lol. Dont you have to drop the engine/ front suspension down or something like that to do the install? I would rather they do it so if I have a problem I can take it back and say hey whats this about. My Dad wants to see if he can find a place to install them for a little cheaper. He also asked why I had to dyno tune it, its because it leans out the engine a little right? I'm sure it does more than that but it deff wouldnt run right without a dyno tune, correct? I could save a little money by doing MAC or something but I dont really want to compromise on something this difficult ya know, it would suck to do it all over again. All I know is that im dumping some money into my car one way or another lol. He cant get away with buying a winch and lift kit and mud terrains for his DD jeep and then tell me I dont need exhaust for my mustang lol. I also sold my quad so I could do this and then after it sells he says I cant do it, wtf! lol.
Not exact on the ideal install steps. I think the motor has to atleast be unmounted and lifted a little. Around here shops want atleast $1k. It will run a little lean but just fine w/o a dyno tune, it just won't make quite as much power. I know what you mean about not wanting to compromise. That's why I patiently waited on a used set by a top notch brand. Lord knows I couldn't afford new ones.
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you do not have to worry about hurting the engine with just exhaust upgrades... and if you are the concerned just get a diablosport chip unit

That way you can add a little fuel yourself, and other things
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Are you going to be autocrossing or just driving on the street?

Street? Those mods are fine but skip the UCA's.

Auto-x? Skip the UCA's, swaybars and H&R SS's and get some really sticky tires. Don't bother with lowering springs. Just go coil-over. Don't worry about sway bars.
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Are you going to be autocrossing or just driving on the street?

Street? Those mods are fine but skip the UCA's.

Auto-x? Skip the UCA's, swaybars and H&R SS's and get some really sticky tires. Don't bother with lowering springs. Just go coil-over. Don't worry about sway bars.
Great info for ya OP. Brother knows his stuff from experience.
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Another thing to do before you buy ANY parts is figure out EXACTLY what the ultimate goal of the car is, Find a car that was featured in the magazines that is close to what you want, and use their experiance to your advantage!

^^^^But also the above advice is also great
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Ha. I just want a to make a badass car more badass lol. It will be an ongoing project, I plan on keeping this car for a long time if all goes well and so I would rather buy the good stuff the first time. It is a DD, so I really have no goal. Can I do coil overs with my stock shocks and truts? Seams like on the websites they just sell the hardware to make an existing setup become a coilover setup. My Dad said he needs some time to do some research lol, so at the end of the week if he hasnt made a decision on longtubes I am getting suspension goodies. I dont know what he will find that I havent already told him but I will let him do his little thing. Kinda funny how he is making a decision on what I will do with the money that I earn lol.
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