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Theres a MUCH larger market for gas engines; meaning more performance products, meaning more competition among manufacturers, meaning lower prices.
Where there may be only one of two turbocharger maker for diesel(Banks for example) theres dozens for Mustangs and petrol engines.
Another factor to consider: with harsher and harsher gas mileage and emissions standards every day chances are you won't see a kickass diesel engine in a car in America as a widely produced model. Obama as President, Democratic Congress, you'll see CAFE x2.
Sure you'll still see diesels, but they'll all be like those BlueTech Dodges.
Possibly because there are much more gas engines being sold? That statement is also relative. For Mustangs there are a **** ton of aftermarket producers, that's not always the case. Try actually looking up the prices on some of the stuff.
Until you get to the point where you have to start going to bigger turbos, it's not that expensive, and turbo's for gas engines are just as expensive (not counting the cost to build a gas engine to not fall apart under boost).
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Possibly because there are much more gas engines being sold? That statement is also relative. For Mustangs there are a **** ton of aftermarket producers, that's not always the case. Try actually looking up the prices on some of the stuff.
Until you get to the point where you have to start going to bigger turbos, it's not that expensive, and turbo's for gas engines are just as expensive (not counting the cost to build a gas engine to not fall apart under boost).
Thats exactly my point. There will be more products for cheaper on a petrol engine. Yeah I've seen all the Ebay 'ricer' diesel mods that add 200 lbs. of torque with a tune
Thats exactly my point. There will be more products for cheaper on a petrol engine. Yeah I've seen all the Ebay 'ricer' diesel mods that add 200 lbs. of torque with a tune
There may be more, but that doesn't mean there's a problem finding parts for diesels. Like I said, do some research, look up some prices. There's not that much difference. Of course there's "diesel ricers". There's people on both extremes no matter what you're talking about.
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What I was trying to argue is that it's more efficient to mod a petrol engine to get the same or better power. Why mod a diesel when you can mod a petrol to get better results?
The engines themselves are not. Like I said, in the US almost all diesels are found in trucks though. Of course it's easier to make a car faster than a truck, regardless of how you power it.
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If they were cleaner, Toyota would drop them inside the Prius and get 100 MPG out them instead of the 60 from petrol engines.
It's more complicated than that. Look at all the diesel cars sold in Europe. Look at all the laws that keep them out of the US. The big 3 sell great cars.... in foreign markets.
Then you have to consider how the US market would accept them. Many people still have bad opinions of diesel. How long would it take for people to start accepting them?
Oh, and like I already said. Diesels ARE cleaner than comparable gas vehicles. They do put out more pollutants per gallon, but do to their higher energy per gallon, they put out less per mile.
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"but we need to go back to the old system of the teacher beats your ass, and then you go home and get your ass beat again. "
Thats exactly my point. There will be more products for cheaper on a petrol engine. Yeah I've seen all the Ebay 'ricer' diesel mods that add 200 lbs. of torque with a tune
200 Ft/lbs of torque from a tune on a diesel is not impossible, in fact it is quite easy. I know this, and so does anyone else who knows how diesels work. But before I explain it to you, I would like for you to explain how it isn't possible.
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200 Ft/lbs of torque from a tune on a diesel is not impossible, in fact it is quite easy. I know this, and so does anyone else who knows how diesels work. But before I explain it to you, I would like for you to explain how it isn't possible.
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