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Old 01-06-2009, 08:28 PM   #21
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Twin Turbo a Viper and see what happens...

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i thought you hate dodge?
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:29 PM   #22
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i thought you hate dodge?
Oh I do. But when the race is between a Dodge and a Dodge I don't really have a choice
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:30 PM   #23
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and why are you quoting Einstein when you have an iron cross in your avatar?

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No the quote I was going for was Einsteins definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

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No people don;t like diesel thats why the don;t use em
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No the quote I was going for was Einsteins definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

And my avatar is the flag of an EVE Online corp I used to be a part of.
Einstein also wore the same clothes everyday and rode a bike.

Heres a "Slow outdated petrol engine" for you:

500 crank HP out of a 1.3L engine...SRTwhaaaat?
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the reason why auto makers dont use turbo diesel motors in sports cars is because in order to make them quick they will not meet the emission test
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And i dont think that vette is a diesel
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Ha ha, tell that to Audi, they really need to know, their R10 (which is a diesel) lost the LeManns by how many laps? Oh wait, it didn't, in fact it came in 1st by a large margin.

Diesels have enormous advantages over gas engines:

1. No risk of pre-detonation, regardless of cylinder pressures, which means you can force in as much air as the block and internals can handle. No need to increase octane or advance the timing.

Thats because the A/F ratio is waaaay different in a diesel compared to petrol. 12 PSI may be a lot for a mustang, but 40 PSI+ is pretty common among trucks. Meaning you need HARD F/I to get them going. A supercharger wouldn't be able to push them to that limit, meaning turbos are the only way to go. Instead of having a choice between Supercharger, Turbo, and nitrous. You only have turbo. Sure you can start slapping on multiple turbos, but at that point your getting light in the wallet. Look how badly diesel cars suck. Golf TDI for example. Expensive, underpowered...

2. The Diesel cycle is more fuel efficient, because the fuel burns as it enters the chamber, as opposed to being ignited from a single point and spreading outwards as gas engines do. Diesel fuel also has more energy per unit than gasoline.

Diesel is also the most expensive of daily fuels. Yes, it's cheap now. But when gas becomes an issue again you'll see $5+ diesel prices. Given the current trend of "going green" diesel won't be popular among the hard left wing. And I'm fairly sure diesels produce more pollution. Yeah, none of us care. But some diehard hippy in his Prius do...

3. Diesels run much cooler, thus can be pushed much harder before reaching the same temperatures of a gas engine producing less power.

They also run much shorter powerbands. Instead of a 8000 RPM engine that can handle revs to the moon, you get a 4000 RPM engine.

4. Diesels are torque engines, producing far more torque than any gas engine of the same horsepower, and we all know what Shelby said.

Yes yes torque wins races horsepower sells cars.

Not quite 18 seconds, and not a gas engine.

Not bad for an 8000 pound truck.

IMO the next generation of racing? Electric. 0 horsepower, 1000 lbs. of torque at ZERO RPM maybe Shelby is right!
1.) my old NA IDI makes more then enough power to pull a mini excavator, you dont NEED boost,unless your looking to make a drag vehicle, which will completely defeat the purpous of having it be a truck, diesels are ment to pull and use little fuel, thats the point of the TDIs, they are good on fuel. also, you can add propane AND/OR nitrous to a diesel.

2.) my 7.3 f350 4x4 did 24.7 mpg on my last trip from MA to ME for christmas. By comparison, my V-6 mustang does 21-22 mpg, BUT my truck will earn me $75 an hour all day long in the snow, where as i cant even drive my stang in the snow. And by comparison, may mid sized gas powered SUVs average under or about 20 mpg.

3.) you dont need to rev to 8000 rpms when you make max power at 1900 rpms

4.) while ive never tracked the shop truck, im sure with the GB turbo upgrade, IC upgrade, tune, exhaust, down pipe, trans command, and propane injection, wouldnt have a problem with some of the 2V GTs on here, which i dont think are running 18s

diesel > gas
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1.) my old NA IDI makes more then enough power to pull a mini excavator, you dont NEED boost,unless your looking to make a drag vehicle, which will completely defeat the purpous of having it be a truck, diesels are ment to pull and use little fuel, thats the point of the TDIs, they are good on fuel. also, you can add propane AND/OR nitrous to a diesel.

You said it! Diesels are meant to pull and get good mileage! Not to race! To takebacks!!!

2.) my 7.3 f350 4x4 did 24.7 mpg on my last trip from MA to ME for christmas. By comparison, my V-6 mustang does 21-22 mpg, BUT my truck will earn me $75 an hour all day long in the snow, where as i cant even drive my stang in the snow. And by comparison, may mid sized gas powered SUVs average under or about 20 mpg.

Seriously? O_o my modded v8 gets 26 highway on a bad day.


3.) you dont need to rev to 8000 rpms when you make max power at 1900 rpms

4.) while ive never tracked the shop truck, im sure with the GB turbo upgrade, IC upgrade, tune, exhaust, down pipe, trans command, and propane injection, wouldnt have a problem with some of the 2V GTs on here, which i dont think are running 18s

Thats just the thing though...If a 2v had a turbo upgrade, IC upgrade, tune, exhaust, straight pipe, trans command, and nitrous injection it wouldn't have a problem with most hyper cars....Actually scrap that...Boost upgrade and forged internals...Thats it

diesel > gas
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Funny, then why, in the 06 Le Mans, did the Audi R10 beat the 2nd place Hybrid by 4 entire laps? Or the 4th place Corvette Ls7 by 25 laps?
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