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Vehicle: 2006 Mustang GT Premium Auto - Vista Blue
Location: Deep in the <3 of Tx
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LOL, that Vette looks like something you'd see here in Texas. I see people all the time with "regular" trucks with those large stack exhausts like you see on big rigs. It's so stupid looking and redneck. Usually the trucks are diesel too since they'll have a ton of black smoke shooting out which I hate. Those things shouldn't be allowed on the road that do that. I'm no tree hugger but that's just plain wrong. Not even big rigs shoot out as much black smoke as these do.
Diesels sound like crap too. I HATE the sound of a diesel engine. CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK! Sounds no better, if not worse, than a ricer's fart can.
Of course diesel engines are what you want for a work truck.
LOL, that Vette looks like something you'd see here in Texas. I see people all the time with "regular" trucks with those large stack exhausts like you see on big rigs. It's so stupid looking and redneck. Usually the trucks are diesel too since they'll have a ton of black smoke shooting out which I hate. Those things shouldn't be allowed on the road that do that. I'm no tree hugger but that's just plain wrong. Not even big rigs shoot out as much black smoke as these do.
Diesels sound like crap too. I HATE the sound of a diesel engine. CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK! Sounds no better, if not worse, than a ricer's fart can.
Of course diesel engines are what you want for a work truck.
I prefer Nitro Methane myself.
you sir are crazy lol
the more smoke the better
and the sound of a diesel with the turbo spooling up is orgasmic
Having built many drag diesel street trucks, it's pretty scary when an 8000lb truck with a 6" lift and 37's can run 12's all day long, and even have a nitrous backfire with a 400shot and crank right back up with no damage.
Oh, BTW, I did the lift, built the engine, and reworked the tranny, along with installing the nitrous and hooking up some crazy tranny and engine controls.
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Usually the trucks are diesel too since they'll have a ton of black smoke shooting out which I hate. Those things shouldn't be allowed on the road that do that. I'm no tree hugger but that's just plain wrong. Not even big rigs shoot out as much black smoke as these do.
Diesel black smoke is only harmful to the wallet of the driver, as it is a sign of overfueling, which produces excess carbon. While it looks ugly, it is harmless, as the carbon particles will simply float to the ground and become one with the dirt.
And if you heard a diesel that sounds like CLACK CLACK CLACK, then that engine needs it's valves adjusted BADLY. A good, properly adjusted and tuned diesel will produce very little gray smoke and purr. Not black clouds and clacking.
Although most racing diesels are injecting propane or kerosene, which usually causes that special kind of black smoke. Although if they were to increase boost pressure a little more and leave the fuel alone, it would more than likely clear up, just run hotter. But, since the black smoke doesn't hurt performance, and doesn't get as hot, no reason to get rid of it.
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MustangCat, you completely missed the point, your points were kinda valid, but we weren't discussing the price of diesel.
First off, get your head out of Octane land, the biggest difference between a diesel and a gas engine is that there is NO A/F ratio, you are at full air all the time, the air supply is not regulated at all (except for the boost controller), the throttle controls the rate of fuel and nothing else.
on problem, there is no boost controller, even on the newest rigs. it's all wastegate actuated. and btw, there is an AFR controller, but it's only to meet emmisions
Second, 40 psi is not the norm for a diesel engine, the largest and most powerful Diesel engines on the road (tractor trailers) average around 25psi. Most light duty diesel trucks average less than half that. If you were to cram 40 psi into a cummins or powerstroke, you would be touching the 1500-1800 ft/lbs of torque range on pump Diesel.
i don't know where you got 25psi from, trucks haven't been hitting 25psi since the late 60's. the average is around 39psi for a stock rig. btw, i've worked on a Peterbuilt with a modded Cummins N14 that was pumping 75psi max boost. the owner never had trouble pulling 80,000lbs up a 6% grade (nor did he have problems running his Pete big old Pete to a 14.21@98mph)
Diesels have no use for nitrous, they have Propane (which is Nitrous for Diesels), which also happens to be cheaper.
as stated before, nitrous is used, just on the IC.
And since you obviously didn't watch the video (come on, you would have at least commented on an 11 second 8000 pound diesel truck), you have clearly made up your mind already, so I won't argue with you any longer.
i don't think that truck was close to 8k lbs, my crew cab Duramax is 7500lbs. that was an extended cab Ram, which is quite a bit lighter than the Duramax.
Well, I was broken in on the Series 60s, 25-35psi was the normal range. And a wastegate is a form of boost controller, I used that term so he would get the idea of what I was talking about.
I didn't know about nitrous on Diesels, but then again I never worked on one built for racing. Learn something new every day.
So you worked the old N14s ey? You know, the adjustment procedure for the PT system would make a great demotivational poster. I kid I kid, sorta. The older mechanical Cummins were nice, but for their new stuff, junk. I work on Firetrucks now (started on rigs with W.W.Williams), and all I can say is, every new truck we get with a Cummins is usually in the shop at least twice a month. It would help if Cummins would send us a wiring schematic, but ohhh no, those are reserved for the Holy Graduates of the Cummins University!
N14s rock BTW, when they are in adjusted right. I prefer the 60s, nothing fancy, just a simple engine that lasts a million miles. Until Williams works on it.
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