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Old 01-28-2009, 12:14 AM   #21
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Wow, that is a lot of anger! I thought it was tradition around here to post stories we find in the news about people defending themselves from robbers and such with their guns, or people using their guns, or something like that?

And who says I don't want a gun? I'm actually probably going to get one in the nearer future. Home protection and all that jazz.

You are a very angry man. I hope you don't have a gun and come and kill me, because I might not be able to get my Bess loaded in time.

I'm not angry, I just dislike ignorant people who try to make fun of someone for their beliefs, or their principals.

The only reason I carry is for protection, and I can guarantee you if you met me you'd never know that I do, no one would.

gun laws only affect those who follow the laws. I would put odds that statistically, 97% of gun violence is caused by people who own the weapon ILLEGALLY, and not by people actually following the law.

Don't play little miss innocent, "oh, I thought that's what we do around here", no, it's your method of propaganda. "oo, look, this dude used a gun improperly, now everyone should give up their right to protect themselves or their family"

Enough of the Liberall BS. You don't like the way things are run here, either run for president, or GTFO. That's your choice, stop complainng to people who don't want to hear your BS that you don't like the way things are run, because to be truthful, I'm sure you, more than Luke, or any of his reincarnations on this forum, would be far less missed by members or anyone else.

I've never seen you provide any actual usefull information on this forum, whatsoever. I would love to see what you actually think about your car, yet you spend all of your time in here, talking to some of the biggest wastes of society around.

Within that 3% of crimes, or injurys caused by guns, I would also bet that 97.5% of those are caused by pure stupidity.

But whatever, I guess we have to follow the ASSram law, so if he doesn't like it, aww shucks, I guess that means it should be.

Get over yourself, just because you're insatisfied with something, doesn't give you the right to rape everyone elses eyes, or ears with your bull **** complaints. You don't like it that much, leave, do us all a favor.
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Businessman Fired Shots
Alleged robber was free on bond. Omaha Police say that one of the owners of the Benson Jewelry and Loan fired a weapon that killed a would-be robber and critically injured his alleged accomplice...

79-Year-Old Shoots Two Intruders, Police Say
The homeowner told police the two men kicked in his back door just before 5 a.m. Saturday. They tried to flee after being shot.
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Teen Dies After Botched Robbery
...as [the victim] tried to get away, a fight started. That's when the victim apparently pulled out his own gun and fired several shots, hitting two of the suspects.

Man credits gun in foiling intruder
Man "fired his .45-caliber Smith & Wesson twice by accident, while trying to cock it and chamber a round." He won in the end but it's something to learn from!

Police: Storeowner Fires In Defense; Robbery Suspect Dies
A 17-year-old robbery suspect died late Thursday or early Friday after he suffered a gunshot wound when a storeowner fired in self-defense, police said.

Teen worker defends her fired boss
To officials with the Long John Silver's seafood chain, a restaurant manager who foiled a robbery after picking up a hammer and hitting a masked gunman he feared might kill him was an employee who violated company policy that requires cooperating with robbers.

Pistol-packing hiker kills brown bear in sudden Chugach foothills attack
"We hadn't had that bear dead within three minutes when 12 cross-country runners from the high school came by," Babcock said.

Fatal Shooting May Have Been Self Defense
The shot gun went off and a member of the club returned fire, killing one teen, injuring the other [May have been? - Ed.]

Pizza man saved by gun, but fired for packin' heat
Prosecutors call it 'clear case of self-defense,' yet national chain prohibits carrying firearms.


Store owner kills armed man
Wearing mask, gloves, he intended to rob Roselawn shop, police say
The owner of a convenience store shot and killed an armed man wearing a black ski mask who authorities said was intending to rob the store, police said Friday.

Cops: Man was serial robber
Covington Police say the robber who was shot and killed by a Covington store owner last month when he tried to rob the business was also responsible for four other Covington hold-ups.

77-year-old woman shoots intruder
A 77-year-old woman who lives alone on Rogers Gap Road shot one of two 19-year-old men who tried to break into her home early Sunday

Weapons Law Works
His suspicion turned to fear when, moments later, the man made a U-turn, stopped his car in the middle of the road and walked toward him.

Robber shot to death during robbery
A 20-year-old Wayne County man was fatally shot by a woman whose house he tried to rob Wednesday.

Man successfully defends home against four invaders
One man is dead and another was in critical condition with two gunshot wounds to the head after an apparent home invasion
Woman Defends Herself after Courts and EPO's Fail
A woman eluded a gunshot fired by her ex-husband Monday night and killed him with a return shot from her own pistol, authorities said Tuesday.
Store owner in gun battle with robber
Man's son, maybe intruder too, injured during holdup
A gun battle during a robbery late Saturday in Pike County left a storekeeper wounded, and maybe one of the assailants as well. Russell Hall, owner of Hall's Midnight Market at Robinson Creek, said a man armed with a pistol shot his son, Michael Hall. Russell Hall then fired several shots at the robber, which drove him away.

Woman kills 1 intruder, other flees
A woman shot and killed one of two suspected robbers who had broken into her home before dawn today, a sheriff's spokesman said.
Tenant kills thief hiding under bed. Police overlook burglar
A burglar undetected during a police search of an East Side apartment early Saturday morning later crawled from beneath a bed and was shot in the head during a gunfight with a resident.The burglar was shot after he shot and wounded Shermaine D. Whitley, who lives in the ground-level apartment on South Street, police said.
True Stories of Armed Self-Defense
for January, 2001
This month brought numerous reminders of why many Americans own guns. But these stories were nowhere to be seen on ABC, CBS, CNN, or NBC. They weren't news to editors of the New York Times, the Washington Post, or the Los Angeles Times. Overlooked by the mainstream media, these accounts show how lives are saved when law-abiding citizens own firearms.
Fight may have been racially motivated
CCW Holder Thwarts Attack
EAST BREMERTON - A black man was waiting for his girlfriend to get off work at Oh! Gallagher's Sports Pub and Grill late Tuesday when he was insulted and challenged by a young, drunk patron who used racial epithets, witnesses told deputies.
How Long Does it Take to Die?
One of the arguments the gun-banners use is that victims of crime should call police and let the authorities handle the situation. As James Brady said, "For defense of the home--that's why we have police departments." An examination of two cases, however, would seem to put the lie to that statement.
Gun-toting attorney foils burglary
Tom Beiting was headed downstairs to his law office one morning this week from the second-floor apartment in the remodeled Newport, Kentucky mansion he owns when he was startled by the sound of the back door opening.
Keeping Secrets
For whatever reason, the networks chose to spike the story.
It's almost like the media moguls have a secret they don't want us to know.
An exciting, heart-wrenching story such as this, breaking even as the evening news shows went on the air, would seem a natural.
Prosecutor clears woman in killing
`Clear case of self-defense' in holdup
Ruth Robinson watched in fear as the gunman, demanding money, cocked the handgun and threatened to kill her husband.Robinson, who was working with her husband, James, at the Busy Mini-Mart on South Hoskins Road in northwest Charlotte, reached under the counter and grabbed a handgun.
An Extraordinarily Gruesome Case
or Why Everyone Needs a Gun
When Hayward Bissell and his girlfriend Patricia Ann Booher left Ohio on a trip to Florida, no one could have guessed that they would soon make front-page news. Though the national media reported the sensational aspects of the case, only local newspapers wrote about the woman who saved herself and her husband from Bissell's insane rage.

Man armed with BB gun killed in robbery attempt
Would We Call This a Failure in Target Selection?
A man armed with a BB gun died while he and his partner tried to rob a pair of Charlotte businessmen Thursday outside a motel on Broad River Road, police said.The robbers didn't know these were ex-military officers, one of whom built his career on teaching anti-terrorism skills to state officials, according to newspaper reports.3 Against 1: Ex-Cop Wins; No Shots Fired
...As I walked around the building, (I was less than 25 yards from a main Avenue), I noticed three young men approaching from the opposite direction. As they neared, they gave a knowing look to each other, and split up. One of them crossed to the other side of the street. The other two separated themselves to where they were approximately four feet apart - the width of the sidewalk. All three un-zipped their jackets.
Refuse To Be A Victim Again
A deeply personal story from a young policewoman about how she came to her philosophy of self defense
Las Vegas Homeowner shoots intruder to death
A gunbattle in a Las Vegas home early Tuesday left an intruder dead and the 60-year-old homeowner shaken but unharmed, police said.The Tuesday morning shootout unfolded as the two men stood just a few feet from one another in the den of the homeowner's residence in the 3200 block of South Tenaya Way at Desert Inn Road.
Have gun, will not fear it anymore
Bleeding and weakened from the bullet wound in her chest, Susan Gonzalez aimed her husband's .22-caliber pistol, the one she hated, and emptied it into one of the robbers who had burst through the front door of her rural Jacksonville home.
Orange Pizzeria manager kills suspect during robbery
The manager of a Hungry Howie's Pizza & Subs restaurant on Silver Star Road shot and killed one masked robber and seriously wounded another Wednesday night, authorities said.
Wounded Grocer Shoots Assailant
Khalid Balala, whose family owns the Hill's Grocery store at 3754 Cascade Road, was forced to the floor at gunpoint by three suspects and shot in the arm about 4 p.m., said Fulton County police Detective Glenn Martin. Balala, still sprawled on the floor, reached for his own handgun and returned fire, Martin said.
Another Thug Done Gone
On November 17, 1998, at 3:00 a.m., Adrian Rodricka Cathey jimmied open the back door of an apartment near the University of North Carolina-Charlotte. He made his way through the house until he reached the bedroom where the co-ed he'd been stalking was asleep.
Carjacking Victim Kills Attacker
The target of a carjacker turned the tables early Monday, pulling out a gun and killing his would-be attacker.

Arlington man, 68, with permit uses his gun to thwart robber
The 68-year-old Arlington man had just left his car in the parking lot of Harrigan's restaurant, at 944 E. Copeland Road, about 4:25 p.m. Sunday when a man wielding a handgun approached and demanded money.
Deacon saves granddaughter from kidnappers
It was all one big blur, authorities said. His 13-year-old granddaughter was struggling to get out of the car, to escape from one of the men who had held her for days in a cheap motel room outside of Atlanta and sexually abused her.
Bowling Green woman fights back
Anne Barry of Bowling Green, Kentucky, knows the importance of having a firearm. "If I hadn't had that gun, I wouldn't have had a chance," she said.
Mugger shot by intended victim
A man police say was trying to rob another man ended up in the
hospital Thursday because his chosen victim, a man out for his morning walk, packed a .25-caliber automatic in his exercise pants and used it.

Clerk handed over cash, was shot anyway
Joseph Hewitt was talking to his wife, Carolee, on the telephone at her second job Wednesday night when a masked gunman robbed and shot her. The senselessness of the crime shocked police because the 23-year-old mother of two gave the robber the money he demanded.
Grayson County bank chief kills robber
Crime doesn't pay at the Bank of Clarkson. In fact, it can be quite lethal. For the second time in three years, branch manager Clyde Bratcher Jr. has gunned down a would-be robber at the bank's Midway Plaza branch in the Grayson County town of 611.

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Every year, approximately 8.9 million people in the U.S. are personally victimized by criminals. About 2.3 million of these crimes, or 26%, include armed violence, anything from use of a firearm to a baseball bat.
But when we think of armed violence we usually think of guns. We hear so much in the media about the use of firearms in violent attacks. The press from school shootings and gang murders, when guns are involved, gets wide exposure. We hear about the laws enacted to limit the ownership of firearms, to a great degree prompted by the publicity of these criminal acts. But of all armed attacks, firearms are present in 37% of them. What about the other 63% of armed attacks?
In 25% of all armed encounters, the attacker’s weapon of choice is a knife or other sharp object such as scissors or broken bottles. According to the U.S. Justice Department, approximately 570,000 attacks are perpetrated on Americans each year using a knife or sharp object. Yet we hear little press fervor or Congressional debates about these edged weapon attacks, and about limiting and registering the ownership of knives.
The situation is even more extreme in our schools. In a Justice Department survey of violent crimes committed on school property between 1993 and 2001, it shows that 37% of armed violent crimes involved a knife or other edged weapon, whereas 12% involved a firearm. Clearly, on our school campuses, edged weapons are far more the weapon of choice.
Further, when an edged weapon was involved in a violent crime on our school campuses, 32% of the time it resulted in an injury, compared to 8% of the time with a firearm. In other words, when a knife was involved, the knife or other sharp object was used four times more frequently to inflict injury than when a firearm was present.
This trend to inflict injury with a knife is mirrored in the general population criminal statistics. According to Weapon Use and Violent Crime, a September 2003 report from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, your chance of serious injury from an armed attacker with a knife is 90% higher than if the attacker has a gun.
42% of all violent crime serious injuries come from assailants using a knife or sharp object. This compared to 23% of violent crimes arising when a gun is present.

3% of all rapes and sexual assaults in the U.S. each year are done with an edged weapon. 6% of all assaults are done with an edged weapon. 13% of all robberies are done with an edged weapon. And 13% of all homicides are done with an edged weapon. In 85% of these instances the weapon was a knife, in 15% the weapon was another type of sharp object.
Where are you most likely to encounter a violent attacker with an edged weapon? 25% of attacks occur when the victim is away from home engaged in some leisure activity. 23% when the victim is at home. 19% traveling to and from work. And 16% when actually at work.
“A criminal armed with a knife is a potentially deadly assailant. The first thing to know is how to keep yourself out of situations where you are a desirable target for his attack.” Says Dr. Ignatius Piazza, Founder and Director of Front Sight Resorts, the largest personal safety and self defense training school in the U.S. “Second, you need to know hot to spot a potential attacker, and see when one is in progress. And third, you need to know how to defend yourself against threats and attacks from the armed assailant.”
“The only way you can really learn how to protect yourself is by training and drilling with simulated, real-life attack scenarios.” Dr. Piazza continues. “Knowing how to handle verbal challenges, taking evasive movements to avoid a confrontation, and how to defend yourself, these are skills learned only with drilling and practice from street-proven techniques. Anything else and you are setting yourself up to be a victim of a potentially-armed criminal.”
Next time you are going for that jog through the neighborhood, consider this: You are more likely to be accosted with someone brandishing a knife demanding your wallet than someone holding you up with a gun. But that doesn’t mean you are in any less danger to serious injury or losing your life.
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I'm not angry, I just dislike ignorant people who try to make fun of someone for their beliefs, or their principals.

The only reason I carry is for protection, and I can guarantee you if you met me you'd never know that I do, no one would.

gun laws only affect those who follow the laws. I would put odds that statistically, 97% of gun violence is caused by people who own the weapon ILLEGALLY, and not by people actually following the law.

Don't play little miss innocent, "oh, I thought that's what we do around here", no, it's your method of propaganda. "oo, look, this dude used a gun improperly, now everyone should give up their right to protect themselves or their family"

Enough of the Liberall BS. You don't like the way things are run here, either run for president, or GTFO. That's your choice, stop complainng to people who don't want to hear your BS that you don't like the way things are run, because to be truthful, I'm sure you, more than Luke, or any of his reincarnations on this forum, would be far less missed by members or anyone else.

I've never seen you provide any actual usefull information on this forum, whatsoever. I would love to see what you actually think about your car, yet you spend all of your time in here, talking to some of the biggest wastes of society around.

Within that 3% of crimes, or injurys caused by guns, I would also bet that 97.5% of those are caused by pure stupidity.

But whatever, I guess we have to follow the ASSram law, so if he doesn't like it, aww shucks, I guess that means it should be.

Get over yourself, just because you're insatisfied with something, doesn't give you the right to rape everyone elses eyes, or ears with your bull **** complaints. You don't like it that much, leave, do us all a favor.
Wowzers! Dude, SO much anger!

Let me make sure I got this right; I am making fun of you for your principles, and I said that everyone should give up their right to own a gun... even though I've made it clear I don't think that, that I enjoy shooting, that I own a gun, and I plan to buy another? Oh, and my choices are either STFU, or leave, or run for president. That's it. Hm. Oh, and by creating a thread on a forum that you chose to click, I am raping your eyes and ears. But of course, your various racist ravings and religious craziness, that is exactly what everyone wants to hear. Wow. I think you need to take your ritalin.

Oh, and here, some useful information; "useful" is spelled with only a single "l." Oh, and "insatisfied" is not a word. Leastways, not in the English language.

There you go!
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Wowzers! Dude, SO much anger!

Let me make sure I got this right; I am making fun of you for your principles, and I said that everyone should give up their right to own a gun... even though I've made it clear I don't think that, that I enjoy shooting, that I own a gun, and I plan to buy another? Oh, and my choices are either STFU, or leave, or run for president. That's it. Hm. Oh, and by creating a thread on a forum that you chose to click, I am raping your eyes and ears. But of course, your various racist ravings and religious craziness, that is exactly what everyone wants to hear. Wow. I think you need to take your ritalin.

Oh, and here, some useful information; "useful" is spelled with only a single "l." Oh, and "insatisfied" is not a word. Leastways, not in the English language.

There you go!
wow, correcting grammer? I stand corrected, biggest douche EVER.

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