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Old 04-30-2009, 05:46 PM   #1
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http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/0...waverider.html

"NASA tested the concept in 2004, breaking the record for a jet-powered aircraft with a speed of Mach 9.6, or nearly 7,000 mph. "

thats so fast wut
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:47 PM   #2
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eh, it's not that fast. just fast for jet propulsion.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:53 PM   #3
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eh, it's not that fast. just fast for jet propulsion.
They are testing a much more efficient SCRAMJET...

That alone is quite an accomplishment...
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I'd like to see our enemies try and shoot down a mach 8+ scramjet powered cruise missile. Good luck with that. Not to mention the advantages it gives in the area of surveillance. Again, good luck trying to shoot down a 7,000mph spy plane.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:37 PM   #5
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I still think those Slow *** U-2's are sick lol.

didnt the SR-71 go like mach 2 or 3? i know it was damn fast for its time.
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Mach 3 I think.
The great feature on that plane actually was the high altitude capabilities.
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LS1>scramjet
the new scramjet is not the new gto
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scramjet is teh ls1?
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The thing with the SR-71 was that it flew high enough and fast enough that no interceptors could catch it, and if you launched a SAM at it, the missile would run out of fuel before it reached it. The Blackbird would just fly so fast that missiles were only slightly faster and would take too long to reach it.

And it flew fast enough to cause the leading edges of the wings to generate so much atmospheric friction(at an altitude where the atmosphere is VERY thin) that they had to be reinforced carbon-carbon, the same composite the space shuttle tiles are made from, because the temperatures would far exceed the melting point of metal alloys. It actually even leaks when it's on the ground. It has so much clearance in everything, including the fuel lines, to account for thermal expansion(the airframe grows several inches at operation), that it leaks like mad in hanger. The inside of the windscreen at operation is hot enough to boil water....that's INSIDE the cockpit.
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torque monster>LS1>scramjet
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The thing with the SR-71 was that it flew high enough and fast enough that no interceptors could catch it, and if you launched a SAM at it, the missile would run out of fuel before it reached it. The Blackbird would just fly so fast that missiles were only slightly faster and would take too long to reach it.

And it flew fast enough to cause the leading edges of the wings to generate so much atmospheric friction(at an altitude where the atmosphere is VERY thin) that they had to be reinforced carbon-carbon, the same composite the space shuttle tiles are made from, because the temperatures would far exceed the melting point of metal alloys. It actually even leaks when it's on the ground. It has so much clearance in everything, including the fuel lines, to account for thermal expansion(the airframe grows several inches at operation), that it leaks like mad in hanger. The inside of the windscreen at operation is hot enough to boil water....that's INSIDE the cockpit.


Well... Kinda.. The leaking part, and expansion part is true, as the Blackbird had a refueler already airborne, so they could refuel right after take-off..

As for the SAMs, and such.. The SR-71 had so much thrust, and an incredible onboard ECM pod that could essentially jam the signals from a lot of SAMs.. Yes, they did fly high, but several SR-71's were fired upon, and the missiles were just no match for the overall speed and power of the aircraft..

As for the missiles being faster; not a chance.. Most AAMs only travel up to the speed of sound, (I think ~785kts), so they weren't faster than the SR-71 by a bit..

And the Mach 3 was the "Unclassified," speed.. Many reports and indications show that the plane flew quite a bit faster than that.. Think about it, most of our current fighters are capable of flying Mach 2+..




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Actually a lot of air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles move upwards of mach 3-4, but even then trying to catch a plane that has a cruise speed of over mach 3, and is probably capable of faster speeds, is next to impossible. And yeah, countermeasures on top of that.
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wut?

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Actually a lot of air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles move upwards of mach 3-4, but even then trying to catch a plane that has a cruise speed of over mach 3, and is probably capable of faster speeds, is next to impossible. And yeah, countermeasures on top of that.


Although true nowadays, older SAMs and AAMs weren't all that fast.. I believe you were closer than I was, but not many models of missile from back in the 60's and 70's did over Mach 2..




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MILITARY TECCHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! ftw...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K11_Krug

As of 1964...............MACH 4 bishes
"Once they have burned and the missile is aloft, it fires a liquid-fuelled ramjet sustainer engine. It reaches speeds of up to Mach 4 and has an effective range of 50-55 km (31-34 miles) depending upon the version. It carries a 135 kg (300 lb) warhead. Possible engagement altitudes range from 100 m-27 km (330-88,500 feet). 3M8 missile was designed and produced by NPO Novator."
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Interesting.. I also read in that article that it was only in service for a short amount of time, after it's initial fielding, but then was pulled temporarily to fix some problems..

I also found this little snippet while reading:

"It is known that the J58 engines were most efficient at around Mach 3.2,[59] and this was the Blackbird's typical cruising speed. The SR-71's Pratt & Whitney J58 engines never exceeded test bench values above Mach 3.6 in unclassified tests."

Essentially, it wouldn't matter if they launched a SAM, even that one, at the Blackbird, because by the time Contact was made, and target aquisition was made, the aircraft would be nearly clear the airspace.. At 2,200+ knts, You'd be covering almost 37 miles a minute..

What was the range again?? Oh snap, ~35 miles.. They also made use of the initial Stealth technologies with it.. Even better..




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