So, what to do? Army question.

[Apoptosis]

Originally Posted by remicks Don't even worry about BAH until you get a duty station. It can vary hugely depending where you are stationed, then how it all works changes if you are sent overseas depending on the country. If you really want to look things up use this site, http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/perdiem/bah.html If you want the best and newest equipment the AF is the way to go, we hand our stuff down to the Army and then they hand it down to the Marines. But honestly as an officer you won't be touching much equipment to begin with, mostly paper. I recommended the Marines over the Army if you want to fight. If you want to actually get in the thick of things that is the branch, Army is much more logistics and supply than they appear, for the Marines, that's what they have the Navy for. But yeah being cocky will get you nowhere, officer or enlisted, when new the best thing is to shut up and listen, find out who is respected and knows their **** and learn from them. Oh yeah, on the feet planted part, you have a far better chance doing that in the AF than you do as a Ranger. You'll be falling out of aircraft as one. Well, I'd want to get jump wings regardless of what I did in the Army/Marines. :P I don't mind flying at all, just don't like being the pilot. That's why I'd consider going into the Army is because of the quality of the equipment is better. Also, they seem to have better SOF detachments... SFOD-D, Rangers, 82nd Airborne, Green Berets, and probably some that are classified... haha

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[Oxnard Montalvo]

Don't be a dope. Why miss any opportunity? Talk to ALL the services recruiters. That being said, Navy Medical is the best.

Talk to a Navy recruiter, he can get you information. I don't know exactly what they are offering these days, but in the recent past the Navy would pay for medical school for a five or six year commitment. Plus Seals need doctors too, if you must play GI Joe. They are the Baddest of the Bad.

[remicks]

Originally Posted by fastbackford351

True story about my old 1st Sgt. and a newbie Lt.

I was an E-2 when I reported to my first duty assignment in an artillery battery. One day I was in the supply office getting instructions from a 2nd Lt. Fresh out of school this guy was and man he knew it all.

Well, he is giving me my marching orders when the 1st Sgt barges in and tell the Lt. that he needed something or other. The Lt. tells the 1st Sgt., "At ease 1st Sgt., I'm talking to Pvt. Fastback".

Before I knew what was happening, the 1st Sgt. grabbed me by the collar and tossed me out into the hallway and slammed the door.

No way I was missing this so I ran outside around the building and peeked through the window to see the 1st Sgt. issuing a military grade ass-chewing to this young butter bar.

He had him backed up against a wall locker, standing nose to nose with him. "Who in the hell do you think you are Sir? Where in the hell do you get off telling me 'At ease'?" The Lt. stammered something inaudible that but it sent the 1st Sgt. into even more of a tailspin.

I can't remember it word for word but I distinctly remember the phrase, "I've got more time in the latrine than you have in the service, Sir. Don't you ever 'at ease' me again".

It gave me a whole new insight into how the military works. 1st Sgt. is akin to God at the company / battery level and a 2nd Lt. is lower than whale schit in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah similar thing happened in my shop when we got a new butters in the shop. He wasn't even through his first week when he was trying to issue blanket orders to us. Things that didn't make sense and quite go well in a close knit fieldunit.

We just turned back around and ignored him. He had this befuddled look on his face and you could see the anger begin to well up in him. He was about to turn around and try to yell at us for not listening but instead he found himself face to face with our element superintendent a 6'6" SMSgt or E-8 who had been in well over 20 years, slightly imposing guy face to face.

He put his hand on his shoulder and told him to follow. Our Flight Commander had heard too, doesn't take long for word to travel in such small units. They took him back to the Commanders office for some wall to wall consoling.

When he returned he was a much quieter guy and actually in a few months turned out to be a decent officer. He learned quickly it pays to shut up and listen sometimes.

[remicks]

Originally Posted by Oxnard Montalvo

Don't be a dope. Why miss any opportunity? Talk to ALL the services recruiters. That being said, Navy Medical is the best.

Talk to a Navy recruiter, he can get you information. I don't know exactly what they are offering these days, but in the recent past the Navy would pay for medical school for a five or six year commitment. Plus Seals need doctors too, if you must play GI Joe. They are the Baddest of the Bad.

Definitely agree with that, talk to all branches.

But that is right, from what I have seen Navy medical is best out of all.

Also don't get the misconception that all AF officers are pilots, a small percentage are. There are tons of volunteer opportunities to do the rough and tumble things. A PJ, SERE instructor, other fun things like that, every branch has them.

[Apoptosis]

Originally Posted by Oxnard Montalvo

Don't be a dope. Why miss any opportunity? Talk to ALL the services recruiters. That being said, Navy Medical is the best.

Talk to a Navy recruiter, he can get you information. I don't know exactly what they are offering these days, but in the recent past the Navy would pay for medical school for a five or six year commitment. Plus Seals need doctors too, if you must play GI Joe. They are the Baddest of the Bad.

Don't want to be on a boat for most of my career. :P

Yea, that's the HPS scholarship. All branches have it and it is generally 4 years in the military as a reserve second lieutenant while in medical school(30 days out of the year you are active), then 4 years of active duty after you specialize, than 4 years as a reservist.

That's hilarious Fastback... hahaha

[Apoptosis]

Originally Posted by remicks

Definitely agree with that, talk to all branches.

But that is right, from what I have seen Navy medical is best out of all.

Also don't get the misconception that all AF officers are pilots, a small percentage are. There are tons of volunteer opportunities to do the rough and tumble things. A PJ, SERE instructor, other fun things like that, every branch has them.

For sho. It's like 4-5% of the Air Force fly regularly, I think.

I wouldn't want to be a doctor in the Armed forces right off the bat. I'd want to have the chance to kill some people(with a rifle!)

[brendend]

in the army there are a few way to go go officer. there ocs, rotc, green to gold, west point, and a military collage. i would also agree for the medical field army isnt the best branch, not saying its bad im in the army, but i would go to a branch with more of a technical resource, navy or air force. goto a recruiter and tell them your interested in becoming a officer. if you finish your degree you can get ocs in your contract, but i would recomemend rotc. the guys coming from rotc seem to have a better knowlege then ocs. we just got a west point butter bar in my unit for some training, the funniest thing ive ever heard was when we were doing land nav, out platoon sgt was up on a op watching us and over the radio we hear "hey lt. you need to move about 1100 meters to the west, this guy had no clue wat he was doing. but anyway, just goto a recruiter and talk to him about becoming a officer, if the recruiter dosent know then the ncoic at the station well know.

[Apoptosis]

Originally Posted by fastbackford351

True story about my old 1st Sgt. and a newbie Lt.

I was an E-2 when I reported to my first duty assignment in an artillery battery. One day I was in the supply office getting instructions from a 2nd Lt. He was fresh out of school and man he knew it all. Looking back, that guy didn't know thin schit from apple butter.

Well, he is giving me my marching orders when the 1st Sgt barges in and tells the Lt. that he needed something or other. The Lt. tells the 1st Sgt., "At ease 1st Sgt., I'm talking to Pvt. Fastback".

Before I knew what was happening, the 1st Sgt. grabbed me by the collar and tossed me out into the hallway and slammed the door.

No way I was missing this so I ran outside around the building and peeked through the window to see the 1st Sgt. issuing a military grade ass-chewing to this young butter bar who was just a couple years older than me.

He had him backed up against a wall locker, standing nose to nose with him. "Who in the hell do you think you are Sir? Where in the hell do you get off telling me 'At ease'?" The Lt. stammered something inaudible that but it sent the 1st Sgt. into even more of a tailspin.

I can't remember it word for word but I distinctly remember the phrase, "I've got more time in the latrine than you have in the service, Sir. Don't you ever 'at ease' me again".

It gave me a whole new insight into how the military works. 1st Sgt. is akin to God at the company / battery level and a 2nd Lt. is lower than whale schit in the grand scheme of things.

If this happened to me, I wouldn't move an inch. If the Sgt. even motions to touch me I'd scream RAPE! as loud as I could and get him in trouble.

Muhahaha

Not really...?

EDIT: I'd go into the medical field AFTER I served in the military!

[kylebgt]

Originally Posted by remicks

Some of the worst officers come from ROTC, associate with prior

Sobel-ROTC
Winters, Nixon-OCS
I've been lining myself up for Officer Candidate School for the past two years. I will be shipping of around this time next year. A Bachelors degree, 110GT score and decent PT score are all required. Bonuses are seldomly handed out through any commissioning source, do not count on getting one through OCS. If I was in your position I would go through ROTC, they will pay for your schooling & books + you do not have to make a commitment. If my school had an OCS program I would be in it. In all honesty, no one commissioning source is better than the other. They each have screw ups and they each have squared away individuals.

[mustangcat]

James, be an officer!