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Old 08-10-2014, 11:05 AM   #41
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Yes, if you are not entrepreneurial, have zero mechanical and/or carpentry skills or lack the basic ability of physical work, then yes, you NEED college. Without bean counters, how would we ever know how many beans there are?

Pot stirred......and continue.
Got to agree with the boozer here, if you don't have skills to make money you better figure something out for a degree, I would also look into trade schools, plumbers, electricians, etc, I never went to collage, I worked my *** off building swimming pools and plowing snow through out high school and in my early teens, also at 19 I ended up getting a CDL and was doing over 50k a year by the time I was 20. I'm 25 now and doing pretty good for myself, but I put some good hours in to get where I am
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:35 AM   #42
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You know I have nothing against trade schools and such, and yes earning a freaking Philosophy wont exactly earn you a lot, but that's not why many are anti-college.
From what I've seen this came about in recent times from the right because barring Christian schools all colleges are "liberal indoctrination centers." They then wrap the "don't be ashamed of going and learning a trade" message around it to make it seem benign.
Interesting. Because I have noticed an insurgance of christian colledges spring up of late. Do they get some kind of extra tax exemption for having a micro church in the quad or something?
Also, it will create an army of Michele Bachmanns and Ted Cruzez....Cruzi? This can't be good.

Maybe we will start seeing some pastafarian colleges start popping up soon. Athiests seem to be counter acting everything christians are doing these days. Most are being sarcastic, but some are dead serious about getting the same rights as churches. We'll see how that unfolds in the years to come.

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Yes boozer, after 2000 years of Christian church they will finally consume your soul with their colleges. Way to go.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:55 AM   #44
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Yes boozer, after 2000 years of Christian church they will finally consume your soul with their colleges. Way to go.
Settle down, skippy. I'm not starting a crusade or anything. Funny that you think my post is going to destroy the christian college uprising.

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There is a Christian college here in Town, Charleston Southern University. According to a good ol' Christian girl I know who attends there it is the best place for college kids to score some good cocaine. buena cocaína!
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I never said it is not worth having a college degree, I simply implied that having a degree with little to no debt afterwards is a great idurr. You are fabricating an argument to make your opinion seem more relevant than mine.



Which the same can be said about your prior quote above, all of it. You don't seem to get it, but you trying make yourself believe you do buy implying I don't.

IMO, College degrees will almost benefit everyone in some type of away. But sometimes going back to school or attending college later in life is better for some. If going to college right out of high school works for people then good, I sure as hell support them... but implying College is the first thing one should do after high school right away, is stupid.

Also implying that you are guaranteed decent paying jobs as you graduate from college is stupid as well.
Why do you think it's such a great idea? Debt is a great tool when used properly... like when it results in more money over the long run. College loans have been proven time and time again to be a great bargain if you aren't a total **** up.
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Why do you think it's such a great idea? Debt is a great tool when used properly... like when it results in more money over the long run. College loans have been proven time and time again to be a great bargain if you aren't a total **** up.
Riiight... Because owing more money then what you have is the way to go. That is what the government wants you to think, Typical sheep thinking. Hey if you owe a company money you will be better off in life!
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Riiight... Because owing more money then what you have is the way to go. That is what the government wants you to think, Typical sheep thinking. Hey if you owe a company money you will be better off in life!
WTF... the government has something to do with this how?

You're not even thinking about this. You've got this boiler plate response about debt = bad, and you're calling me a sheep? If you do the math and really think about it, you'd realize very quickly that debt is not an inherently bad thing. It's certainly possible to be better off in life by using debt as a tool, and it's certainly possible to be an idiot and get yourself in over your head with high interest debt. Businesses and individuals both use debt successfully every single day to build wealth.
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I know one thing for sure, borrowing money to make money has paid off well for me. And when I get the chance to use other people's money for free, I do it in a heart beat and use MY money to work for me elsewhere.

Let me give a simple to understand example without going in to too much detail. These numbers are arbitrary for example, so don't bother doing the math.
I buy a 30k truck that I need for business.
I get a 0% 2.5 year payoff loan. Which is always.
I figure up the interest I would have paid with a conventional loan.
I put that money into my 401k (so lower income tax paid)
That money in my 401k is now an investment.
My truck payment is a tax deduction.
My truck is a tool that makes me money
Bottom line. I got free money. Had debt. Profit.
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0% makes it an obvious no-brainer. But even if you do pay some interest, it would still make sense up to a certain point.
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Yeah, I know. I was giving a hardcore example, because, well, I'm....you know....hardcore.

But yes, when buying a house, it's a good debt because it's an investment that generally makes a profit, as well as a roof over your head.

A car is a bad investment, but still takes you to and from work etc. So it's also a good debt.

A payday loan at 300% interest so you can buy a bag of weed before you get paid from Walmart. Not a good debt.
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The only thing "proven" about college education is the Average person with a degree earns more annually than a person with some college, who earns more than someone with no college who earns more than someone with no GED.

Part of that isn't necessarily the degree itself, but that you have the determination, drive, and intelligence to get a degree or pursue higher learning.

People who can't even bother getting a GED can barely bother to get a job at mcdonalds.

That my brother and I with no degrees and no certifications both make far more than either of my sisters who both have 2 degrees each proves that... if you are a woman don't bother entering the work force

(although once the one finishes med school she'll make way more than either of us.. so it also depends on the degree). I don't think you disagree with that though.. don't bother with degrees that wont get you into a good paying career. You have an engineer balancing out the wages of the english majors to make up that average pay being higher.


btw... the degrees.. my sister has degrees in photography and advertising, minor in math. other sister has interior design and marketing.
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Yeah, never accept money from loan sharks











Or nurse sharks, lemon sharks, tiger sharks, or bull sharks


Really, no sharks of any kind


jewfish are pretty good for lending you money though
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if you are a woman don't bother entering the work force
I've said it before, I just can't believe you are still single.
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Or nurse sharks, lemon sharks, tiger sharks, or bull sharks


Really, no sharks of any kind


jewfish are pretty good for lending you money though
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I've said it before, I just can't believe you are still single.
You'd think a guy with two broke sisters would be able to ****** up ****** like no tomorrow.

Hmm... I've got an idea for a new sitcom.
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I looked into cabinet making.. It is a 1 year program and im really good with my wood..
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You like the woods?











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