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Whoaaaa it's been a long time since I've posted here! I know this isn't considered 'tech' but I remember reading a lot about this in this area and know some people that stick to mostly this area and I'm really seeking their advice here but if it must be moved to a different area, then so be it.
Last time I posted here I owned a 2005 v6. I've since upgraded to a 2007 GT and within 4 months of owning it had the motor on the floor in my garage. I had no clue what I was doing and made many mistakes but 8 months later I had a HCI 3 valve making 383 RWHP NA (that's a very, very quick summary as to not stray too far from the main topic).
I rarely take me car to work as I don't trust my coworkers to not fling their car door into my car. I almost always have errands to run when I get home from work (3:30 p.m.) so I instantly get my car out of the garage pull it down my driveway and let it warm up while I go inside and change, freshen up, etc.. Sometimes My car usually runs for 15 minutes, sometimes longer (never longer than 25 minutes).
To get to the main point... My neighbor who hated me before I even had my car running called the cops on me one day for "disturbing the peace" by letting my car idle in the driveway. The cops gave me a warning ticket for disturbing the peace and told me, to try and keep the peace, to only let it run for about 5 minutes a day. Well, I tried to follow that advice but I would still occasionally let it run for 15 minutes due to it not being warmed up yet or I just wasn't ready to leave yet. Well, the cops got called again and the cop, armed with a decibel reader, was in their building (it's a business) when I got home that afternoon and backing into my driveway read a whopping 79 decibels (peak). The cop told my neighbor, based on what he saw and heard that he could not give me a ticket because I simply was doing nothing wrong. He told her the only thing she could do was to file civil charges against me. Well, that's what she did.
The charges consist of 1. Inadequate mufflers on a motor vehicle 2. Disturbing the Peace. I was told (by the cop serving the paper, also a friend of mine) that basically they don't think they can make disturbing the peace stick so they're trying to get me with the lesser ( Count #1).
I don't believe I can be charged with inadequate mufflers of a motor vehicle for 2 main reasons. 1. The car does have mufflers (borla stingers) and the law says it has to have a muffler in working order. 2. The car wasn't on public road when they filed these charges and this law only applies to vehicles on a public roadway. So in my mind, I'm innocent of count #1 and they don't believe they have enough evidence for count #2 to stick.
I've talked to an attorney and his goal is to present our evidence to the city prosecutor and aim for all charges being dropped. I still wanted to pick all of your minds as this is the first time I'm dealing with something like this and I know I've read similar stories on here before so if I still have anyone reading I'd love some advice! Thanks for reading my gibberish!
Videos of the car idling are on Page 3.
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Last edited by BrandonsBlueStang; 01-06-2015 at 08:53 PM.
I love the way the car sounds as is and it's not that loud. On the rare occasion that I do take it to work I start it at 6:25 a.m. and don't leave until 6:40 a.m. and have never had a complaint during those times from my other neighbors who actually live by me. I don't consider 15 minutes to be too long to let it warm up especially since it's gotten cold out. After 15 minutes it's barely moved the temp gauge. The times I've let it go for longer I've simply gotten busy doing something inside and it was unnecessary for the 25 minutes I let it go (I had just got my new iPhone in and was playing with it lol)
lol, some people are just huge vaginas. I have a really hard time believing customers were complaining about it, unless it's a library.
Sounds like the lady is one of those nice liberal types that likes to get offended about everything and blow it all out of proportion (insert video of prius lady verbally attacking powerstroke owner here)
Those charges should be dropped without issue IMO.
After they're dropped, unbolt the mid pipe and run open headers for 15 minutes and then pull the car in before the cops arrive... you know, just for the enjoyment.
The dispute with the neighbor aside, Ford states the following, in answer to the question "How long should my car warm up on a cold day?"
"All it takes is a matter of seconds. 'The myth that you should let your car idle for five to 10 minutes before driving to protect the engine is completely false' says Brett Hinds, advanced engine design and development manager for Ford. Even at temperatures as low as -20 degrees, your gasoline engine has full lubrication and is ready to go within five seconds of ignition. For best warm-up and fuel economy, a vehicle should be driven as soon as it's ready, adds Hinds..."
The above appeared in the Winter 2010 issue of My Ford magazine.
Personally, I would wait longer than five seconds, but I don't think you need to warm it up by idling for as long as you do. The car warms up quicker when it is being driven. Just take it easy until your water temperature reaches normal.
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07blackgt, that's exactly who I compare her to haha. It's not a library, it's a portrait studio. By customers complaining I picture she said something about it and a customer simply agreed. I've had a friend in there with his family while my car was running. While they were taking pictures he asked his brother if he could hear that noise (my car running). His brother said no what noise and my friend told him to listen closer then he heard it. That's how "loud" it is in there. He said it reminded him of an ac unit running in a house. Just common background noise, if he didn't know it was a car he probably wouldn't have even acknowledged there was any noise.
Good to know art. I've never looked into the subject much I just always though, especially after doing internal work, it was good on it to warm up for about 15 minutes before driving. Thanks for the info.
Please keep us updated! I'd love to know how this works out!
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