Oil Treatment Opinions
01-25-2011, 11:10 AM
#11
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Stop talking sense unleashed beast.... I see your over in the bitog forum too... Mt name is clevy over there.... There is some amazing info over there..anyways keep er coming. I look forward to your posts. Educational to say the least.
01-25-2011, 04:59 PM
#13
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Is this not so, Beast?
01-25-2011, 09:06 PM
#14
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Normally you would add 6 quarts of oil to your engine, each with it's level of ZDDP and detergent additives.
When you substitute 1 quart using Lucas, which contains no anti-wear or detergent additives, you have effectively reduced the ppm content across the board. This is not a good thing. The reason why few believe Lucas works is due to it's viscosity. Heck, all viscous fluids will make your engine quieter, but it's not always what's best for your engine.
Adding one quart of Lucas with 5 quarts of 5W-20 would create close to a 20W-50. Why not go ahead and choose the correct viscosity in the first place, and retain the proper levels of additives?
01-26-2011, 11:15 AM
#15
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My motto is...
If you have to add any additive to your engine oil, you chose the wrong lubricant in the first place. Why not choose a lubricant that is already loaded with the additives required to do the job right?
Lizzyfan is adding greater amounts of ZDDP to his MotorCraft 5W-xx synblend API SM using Red Line product. It's the only additive I do approve of, and if he wasn't changing his oil every 3,000 miles....I would recommend something else for his application. It probably lasts him 3 oil changes if he is mixing it 1 ounce per 1 quart ratio. This is a cheap way to get more protection, unless you want to change your oil beyond 3-5,000 miles.
Do not add STP or Lucas to your oil. STP will add some ZDDP and increase your viscosity, Lucas will only increase the viscosity. Why choose any additive that will increase your viscosity, when you could have selected a more viscous formulation from the start?
If you have to add any additive to your engine oil, you chose the wrong lubricant in the first place. Why not choose a lubricant that is already loaded with the additives required to do the job right?
Lizzyfan is adding greater amounts of ZDDP to his MotorCraft 5W-xx synblend API SM using Red Line product. It's the only additive I do approve of, and if he wasn't changing his oil every 3,000 miles....I would recommend something else for his application. It probably lasts him 3 oil changes if he is mixing it 1 ounce per 1 quart ratio. This is a cheap way to get more protection, unless you want to change your oil beyond 3-5,000 miles.
Do not add STP or Lucas to your oil. STP will add some ZDDP and increase your viscosity, Lucas will only increase the viscosity. Why choose any additive that will increase your viscosity, when you could have selected a more viscous formulation from the start?
But now I'm low on cash and now I just want to take good care of it cause I can't afford another car right now ..I've always used Castrol Gtx 5w30 .. With stp.. Should I just put in Castrol Gtx 5w30 high milage? With no stp? Your thoughts?
01-26-2011, 12:44 PM
#18
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see that what I want to do..lol but you know that saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it".. I haven't had a prob yet ..but I want to switch ..I'm scared lol what do you think?
01-26-2011, 11:04 PM
#19
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If you are on a budget, and you want a LOT of bang for the buck without adding anything to the oil....
You may want to check out Mobil 1 5W-30 high mileage. It's API SL certified, not API SM. This means it has higher amounts of ZDDP. Castrol high mileage is now API SM certified. It's simple to look at the API starburst logo on the back of any API certified lubricant and see what "class" it's certified for. If the oil says "SL", it has a much better additive pack than anything "SM". In all of my local Wal Mart and auto part stores, Mobil 1 high mileage is the ONLY API SL lubricant on the shelf. Other than Royal Purple, which is in a different category than what we are discussing.
Although, it's hard to beat Lizzy's Motorcraft 5W-30 API SM with added Red Line break in fluid (effectively making it an API SL lubricant). That's a lot of bang for the buck if you plan to change your oil at 5,000 miles or less. Yes, I know it's capable of ~7,500, but I honestly wouldn't run it that far.
You may want to check out Mobil 1 5W-30 high mileage. It's API SL certified, not API SM. This means it has higher amounts of ZDDP. Castrol high mileage is now API SM certified. It's simple to look at the API starburst logo on the back of any API certified lubricant and see what "class" it's certified for. If the oil says "SL", it has a much better additive pack than anything "SM". In all of my local Wal Mart and auto part stores, Mobil 1 high mileage is the ONLY API SL lubricant on the shelf. Other than Royal Purple, which is in a different category than what we are discussing.
Although, it's hard to beat Lizzy's Motorcraft 5W-30 API SM with added Red Line break in fluid (effectively making it an API SL lubricant). That's a lot of bang for the buck if you plan to change your oil at 5,000 miles or less. Yes, I know it's capable of ~7,500, but I honestly wouldn't run it that far.
Last edited by Unleashedbeast; 01-26-2011 at 11:12 PM.
01-27-2011, 01:33 PM
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