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Old 09-23-2012, 07:56 AM   #21
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NASCAR cars are so different than the cars they represent that I have no interest in it at all. I did like the old stock car racing.
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:00 PM   #22
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So exactly what professions are everyone else in that is less sissy than mixing it up with 40 other guys driving multi-thousand pound vehicles at triple digit speeds often within inches of each other?

I make no claims on it's entertainment value (I'm not really into spectating any kind of sport myself). And it's redneck qualities are admittedly fairly self evident. But to claim these guys are sissies? That's just idiotic.
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Pretty much all drivers look like sissies next to these guys.

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Old 11-04-2013, 02:51 PM   #24
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Pretty much all drivers look like sissies next to these guys.

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Old 11-05-2013, 09:09 AM   #25
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I do respect Nascar drivers but I also believe that they could run in the rain if they chose to. It would slow them down, no question about that but it could certainly make for some entertaining racing.

Of course trying to convince Nascar fans to sit in the rain and watch a race would be something else entirely.
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:37 AM   #26
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NASCAR cars are so different than the cars they represent that I have no interest in it at all. I did like the old stock car racing.
I agree, the factory's need to be involved again to get my interest.
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Sorry in advance for being so late to this thread, I just found it though lol.

As much as i love Formula 1, and dislike NASCAR they're completely different sports. You cannot honestly believe it's safe on any level for those guys to race in the rain.

First of all a huge amount of oval tracks have very steep slopes, in rain I'm sure that would be insanely scary. Add in the fact that you're often racing with 2 other cars on the side of you and 30+ cars behind you with small gaps that take no time to close when things go wrong. You'll be playing frogger with 40 cars in the wet where knee jerk steering input trying to avoid a car will only cause additional accidents.

You have to remember traditional road courses have big gaps between races after a couple laps, and generally have a "single file line" that allows you to get a little bit out of control without wrecking into another car. Also when things go wrong that's what yellow and red flags are for, they just don't work the same in NASCAR versus F1. Believe me i love F1 and would be the last one to defend nascar... but i think what NASCAR does makes sense as long as they're racing on ovals

even though ovals are lame :P
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yeah I agree, lets make them race around a track where they normally race at 200 mph and they will do 60 mph because the car will barely hold that speed because of a 40 degree banking. That would be magical.

BTW. one of the most boring things to watch is F1 let alone F1 in the rain
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Pretty much all drivers look like sissies next to these guys.

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I watched a documentary on this race. What did they say, 105 years, 230 deaths at this race. I know when you do something like this you accept the risks, but this is a deathwish
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well I watched a bit of F1 this week. In the first 16 laps the 1st place car was 16 seconds in front of second place. You talk about excitement!!!!!!!!!!
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Rain tires and windshield wipers. Sure they wouldn't be going close to 200 anywhere in the rain, but the banking is not anywhere near 40 degrees at any of the tracks. It is not the car would just slide down the banking becasue of water on the track

Put on rain tires and install windshield wipers and let them go. It would likely be far more entertaining and "true" racing than what they have now with all these convenient yellows at opportune times (for certain drivers and teams anyways)

And I too would really like the car based on the cars you can buy off the dealers lot, rwd, front engine,oem body panels and windshield opening etc...

So you know Ford would have to use the Mustang, awesome!
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yeah I agree, lets make them race around a track where they normally race at 200 mph and they will do 60 mph because the car will barely hold that speed because of a 40 degree banking. That would be magical.

BTW. one of the most boring things to watch is F1 let alone F1 in the rain
I disagree but that's just me. F1 on the rain is f1 at its best. Takes the engineering out and makes it mostly about the driver. To each is their own though. You should check out Australian v8 super cars the Aussie version of nascar with right hand corners
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I disagree but that's just me. F1 on the rain is f1 at its best. Takes the engineering out and makes it mostly about the driver. To each is their own though. You should check out Australian v8 super cars the Aussie version of nascar with right hand corners
I love watching NASCAR on road courses and aussie super cars are cool
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Rain tires and windshield wipers. Sure they wouldn't be going close to 200 anywhere in the rain, but the banking is not anywhere near 40 degrees at any of the tracks. It is not the car would just slide down the banking becasue of water on the track

Put on rain tires and install windshield wipers and let them go. It would likely be far more entertaining and "true" racing than what they have now with all these convenient yellows at opportune times (for certain drivers and teams anyways)

And I too would really like the car based on the cars you can buy off the dealers lot, rwd, front engine,oem body panels and windshield opening etc...

So you know Ford would have to use the Mustang, awesome!
First off windshield wipers would float at 140 mph. In F1, they have about 100 ft of gravel trap to stop the cars before they hit 30 feet of tires. SISSIES. NASCAR has concrete leading to 2 ft of concrete. NASCAR has put some of the Nationwide cars on road courses in the rain. It didn't work very well.
Besides that I wouldn't pay $100 to sit in the rain and watch a bunch of cars run around at half speed and not be able to see anything because of the spray. Windshield opening? Body panels opening? I don't understand that one.
I do like the idea of the cars being based on dealership cars. But at 200 mph they would almost leave the ground. They tried that until the 50s and the superspeedways came around. Did you know that in the 1969 Daytona Charger (the one with the big wing) at the end of the straightaway you could turn the steering wheel from lock to lock and the car wouldn't turn? You had to slow the car down to settle the front tires onto the track before you make the turn. SISSIES at 200 mph huh. A NASCAR stock car hasn't been a stock car for a long time
and they get farther away all the time.
My friend, you don't seem to know what you are talking about. First of all I'm not 100% sure of the angle of Daytona and Talledega but it is definitely close to 40 degrees. Most of the things which are done in stock car racing are done because of safety of the fans and drivers. A 3500 lb car flying into the stands would ruin a few people's day.

PS. The Camaro and Mustang are used in Nationwide series. Once again though they are anything but stock
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My response was to Busters post...I did not call them sissies

Daytona banking is what 31 degrees? That sure aint close to 40 degrees...
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I like road races versus nascar races because of the technical tracks and how intense they can be if it's endurance racing like LeMans or the rolex series
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My response was to Busters post...I did not call them sissies

Daytona banking is what 31 degrees? That sure aint close to 40 degrees...
Beg my pardon, please read a little harder on the last paragraph of my post and sorry, I thought u started this post
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In the old days of Nascar, when the cars that were in the race resembled what your Dad drove to work during the week, the Big Three had this saying: "Win on Sunday sell on Monday".

The only resemblance now is that the cars that are raced must have the same shaped hood, slope to the windshield, same roof line, slope to the rear window and same shape as the trunk lid of the cars they are representing.

When the cars go thru their pre race inspection a template is placed on the car that has the same shape as the stock version. I've been to only two races and was fortunate to have all access passes at one and saw the inspections process and asked a Nascar official what the templates were for and that was the explanation given to me at that time.

I am not a big fan of Nascar but I am more likely to watch a race on a road course as opposed to a race on the oval, just seems more fun to me. But having been on the track at Charlotte those banked turns are scary steep, these drivers are not wussies as someone said in an earlier post.
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In the old days of Nascar, when the cars that were in the race resembled what your Dad drove to work during the week, the Big Three had this saying: "Win on Sunday sell on Monday".

The only resemblance now is that the cars that are raced must have the same shaped hood, slope to the windshield, same roof line, slope to the rear window and same shape as the trunk lid of the cars they are representing.

When the cars go thru their pre race inspection a template is placed on the car that has the same shape as the stock version. I've been to only two races and was fortunate to have all access passes at one and saw the inspections process and asked a Nascar official what the templates were for and that was the explanation given to me at that time.

I am not a big fan of Nascar but I am more likely to watch a race on a road course as opposed to a race on the oval, just seems more fun to me. But having been on the track at Charlotte those banked turns are scary steep, these drivers are not wussies as someone said in an earlier post.
Somebody took the position that stock car drivers should be racing in the rain at Daytona
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