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Old 04-27-2008, 03:18 PM   #111
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Default RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done"

hmm. i might just plan on going w/ the supercharger
what type of numbers can i pull out of a v6 mustang w/ a supercharger and flowmaster exhaust?how much boost could it handle andalso what type of tuning and ECU would i need (if any)
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Old 04-27-2008, 04:38 PM   #112
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hmm. i might just plan on going w/ the supercharger
what type of numbers can i pull out of a v6 mustang w/ a supercharger and flowmaster exhaust?how much boost could it handle andalso what type of tuning and ECU would i need (if any)
what year? Cat back exhaust system will only give a couple more hp. If you really want an increase in power then you should buy a true dual kit. There is a company named Pypes that sells a complete true dual exhaust kit from the headers all the way back for $400 on ebay. It comes with an offroad x pipe and stainless 2.5 inch piping with 3 inch tips. You can get the high flow catted version for $479 i think. That would give a nice increase in power. Its probably best to keep it under 9psi while non intercooled because of the heat. If you go with a procharger you can run 10psi but theyre more expensive. The v6 vortech kit can be put together for pretty cheap. If you get the vortech you could also buy a meth injection kit to run 10 psi. You will want to buy an sct or diablosport tuning device for it, depending on what the tuner uses. It will need to be tuned on the dyno with a handheld programmer or a chip. The tuning will keep your engine running safe and will allow much more power.
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Old 04-27-2008, 04:54 PM   #113
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Default RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done"

i am planning on going w/ a 1999-2001 mustang (i would still like to get a GT however i have not beenable to find one for a pricei like! so i am looking at all my options)

i called summit up today and asked what their pricing was on flowmaster exhaust and got a price of $500ish. I really like the sound of the dual flowmaster super 40's!

if you want you can message me (so i dont clutter this thread up anymore)
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:41 AM   #114
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ok 1 more question for now...

the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:19 AM   #115
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Default RE: $1500 96-04GT Supercharger kit "how its done"

If I used a 5.4 short block(using everything else off my 4.6) would all the mounting stuff from this write-up still work?
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:20 AM   #116
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ok guys im looking to educate myself and my friend who may be interested in my help piecing together a supercharger kit like this for his 97 gt. i understand how pretty much everything here works, cept im not very knowledgeable on the kind of engine management that is used commonly with a kit like this. could you go with a flash programmer? or would you have to go standalone? or is piggy back like a greddy emanage an option? does the factory ecu account for the extra airflow, or does the car actually have to be tuned with a wideband 02 sensor and all? i would be doing the tuning for him on the street. i have a laptop so no problem there. ill just have him get a wb02 and work off of that. i just need to know what solution would allow this type of tuning for the 97 gt 2v motor and ecu?

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Old 04-28-2008, 05:22 PM   #117
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ok 1 more question for now...

the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
^^ still wondering
part number dy-754
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probably around $20...
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:24 PM   #118
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If I used a 5.4 short block(using everything else off my 4.6) would all the mounting stuff from this write-up still work?
I am not sure. You should find out if the timing covers are the same. I believe they are but im not sure. If the timing covers are the same then yes it will work. It just needs to bolt up to the timing cover and everything else will fit.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:33 PM   #119
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ok guys im looking to educate myself and my friend who may be interested in my help piecing together a supercharger kit like this for his 97 gt. i understand how pretty much everything here works, cept im not very knowledgeable on the kind of engine management that is used commonly with a kit like this. could you go with a flash programmer? or would you have to go standalone? or is piggy back like a greddy emanage an option? does the factory ecu account for the extra airflow, or does the car actually have to be tuned with a wideband 02 sensor and all? i would be doing the tuning for him on the street. i have a laptop so no problem there. ill just have him get a wb02 and work off of that. i just need to know what solution would allow this type of tuning for the 97 gt 2v motor and ecu?

thanks
The 97 GT kit is setup to be used with a Fuel Management Unit. That is whats used to add fuel, but it still needs to be tuned so you can adjust spark and make sure the a/f ratios are safe. Yes it needs to be run on a dyno with a wideband. Do you have alot of experience with tuning cars? If you are planning on doing the tuning for him, you should have years of experience before attempting to do so. Anything less could easily cost him a new engine. It is very difficult and you wont be able to do it unless you know exactly what your doing and have the correct tuning software that works with your tuning device. Most tuners use either SCT or Diablosport software. You can buy a chip or a handheld tuner. So basically it needs to go to a reputable tuner and put on the dyno...Anything else will not be safe and will not make good power.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:40 PM   #120
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ok 1 more question for now...

the mongoose kit says it comes with an IAT sensor. will i need to buy that also? or is it not necessary?
Yes it is needed if your car did not come with an external IAT sensor from the factory. The stock mass air flow sensor on my car which is an 03 has the IAT sensor built in. On some earlier cars it uses external. You want to have the IAT sensor in the discharge pipe so it reads the correct intake temps. If your using the stock maf then you will only be reading the temps before the supercharger. You will most likely need the 90mm lightning MAF anyways and it does not come with a built in IAT sensor. So since the mongoose kits come with a lightning MAF, they have to include an external IAT sensor. It has to be spliced into the maf wiring. Not a big deal though.
where can u find an iat sensor?? like how much is it??
^^ still wondering
part number dy-754
f6sz-12a697-a
probably around $20...
thanks man
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