Complete Suspension Overhaul

[F1Fan]

ORIGINAL: DocVenture Ok here's my new list: Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs Tokico D-Spec Wide-Range Adjustable Shocks & Struts BMR Fabrication Lower Control Arms(found a good deal) Camber Adjustment Bolt Kit Steeda Bumpsteer Kit Steeda Front Control Arm Relocation Kit Steeda Front Swaybar Steeda G-Trac Brace SteedaStreet Panhard Bar and Heavy Duty Brace Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Swaybar w/ Endlinks Steeda Lower Trailing Arm Relocation Brackets Steeda Competition Front Swaybar Endlinks 5zigen Fn01r-c 18x9.5 22lbs with a 255/45x18 tire Hi DocV, O.K. good choices but you still need a few items and they will fit your budget. Here is my take on how to install them in phases. Eibach Pro-KitSprings Tokico D-SpecAdjustable Shocks & Struts CamberBolt Kit << SKIP THIS PART>> >>> IHIGHLY RECOMMENDsubstituting aSteeda Heavy Duty Street Strut Mount for the camber >>>bolt kit. This part solves the poping and clicking and adds precision to your steering without >>> adding any NVH to your car. SteedaStreet Panhard Bar Steeda Heavy Duty Panhard Bar Brace SteedaLCA Relocation Brackets (find agood shop with an expert welder) Steeda G-Trac Brace Steeda Bumpsteer Kit Steeda Front Control Arm Relocation Kit Steeda Front Control arm Bushing Insert Kit (useblack bushing inserts for max steering response) >>> I HIGHLY RECOMMENDinstalling a Steeda Adjustable UCA Comp/Street UCA Kit w/UCA Mount >>>As ahigh performance road car with sporting intentions this part is a MUST for improvedexitspeed >>> andeliminating wheel hop and pinion angle changes. BMRLCA's << Are these the adjustable or fixed tubulars? Steeda Front Swaybar Steeda Competition Front Swaybar Endlinks <<SKIP THIS PARTyou don't need it unless you are circle racing. >>> These are of no value if you turn left AND right,this part allows you toalter/remove preload on the bar. >>> The use ofspherical bearings here can causea large increase in turning radius due tothe more limited >>>steering angle allowed by the spherical bearings. If you feel you must have this part use the "Street" version >>> because the ball joints usedretain the samerange of motion as the stock sway bar links. I suggest adding the Steeda Front Sway Bar Mount Braces to your partslist to improveswaybar >>> mount location which in stock form is not triangulated and has some flex in the mount when loaded up. Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Swaybar w/ Endlinks Gotta love those billet links under the car! I like these 5Zigenwheels but the WedSport 18x9 is only 18.5lbs per wheel and is a perfect fit for a 255/45 tire. 5zigen Fn01r-c 18x9.5 22lbs with a 255/45x18 tire << These wheels will also support a 275/40x18 tire if you need more meat. << A 285/40x18 is a perfect fit but there are very few good tires in this size. Speaking of wheel deals I just accidentally found (and at this price I just had to purchase),anew set offorged Roush 18"x10" wheels with the stock 275/40x18 g/Force T/A KD tires as take offs from anew Stage 3 Roush foran unbelievable price from a local SoCal Ford dealer who is also a Roush dealer. These wheels are not the cheaper cast wheels thatRoush offers forthe lower Roush Sport, Stage1 and Stage2cars butforgings from billets of 6061 alloy. This wheel and tire combois about $4,000 from Roush! This large wheel and tire combo weight may be less than the stock 235/55x17 Pirellis and 17x8 Bullits and they're beautiful to boot. But personally I don't like chrome so much, anybody want to buy these fine wheels at half price?. Cheers! Edited for clarity and some additional comments.

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[F1Fan]

ORIGINAL: F1Fan

Hi DocV,

These are pretty good choices but you still need a few items and they will still fit within your budget. I avoided the whole "coilover" mess becausemost folks don't have the tools, patience or knowledge to properly setup a "coilover" suspension. The joke is that you already have a coilover fromt suspension you just don't have the adjustable spring seat. The only real advantage tothe so called street coilovers are the systems that come with doubleadjustable damping with two external adjusters.

Here is my take on how to installyour suspensionin phases.

Eibach Pro-KitSprings
Tokico D-SpecAdjustable Shocks & Struts
CamberBolt Kit << SKIP THIS PART>>
>>> IHIGHLY RECOMMENDsubstituting aSteeda Heavy Duty Street Strut Mount for the camber
>>>bolt kit. This part solves the poping and clicking and adds precision to your steering without
>>> adding any NVH to your car.
SteedaStreet Panhard Bar
Steeda Heavy Duty Panhard Bar Brace

SteedaLCA Relocation Brackets (find agood shop with an expert welder)
Steeda G-Trac Brace
Steeda Bumpsteer Kit
Steeda Front Control Arm Relocation Kit
Steeda Front Control arm Bushing Insert Kit (useblack bushing inserts for max steering response)
>>> I HIGHLY RECOMMENDinstalling a Steeda Adjustable UCA Comp/Street UCA Kit w/UCA Mount
>>>As ahigh performance road car with sporting intentions this part is a MUST for improvedexitspeed
>>> andeliminating wheel hop and pinion angle changes.
BMRLCA's << Are these the adjustable or fixed tubulars?

Steeda Front Swaybar
Steeda Competition Front Swaybar Endlinks <<SKIP THIS PARTyou don't need it unless you are circle racing.
>>> These are of no value if you turn left AND right,this part allows you toalter/remove preload on the bar.
>>> The use ofspherical bearings here can causea large increase in turning radius due tothe more limited
>>>steering angle allowed by the spherical bearings. If you feel you must have this part use the "Street" version
>>> because the ball joints usedretain the samerange of motion as the stock sway bar links.
I suggest adding the Steeda Front Sway Bar Mount Braces to your partslist to improveswaybar
>>> mount location which in stock form is not triangulated and has some flex in the mount when loaded up.
Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Swaybar w/ Endlinks Gotta love those billet links under the car!

I like those 5Zigenwheels,have you seenWedSport 18x9's, 18.5lbsandperfect fit for255/45 but no bigger for performance apps.
5zigen Fn01r-c 18x9.5 22lbs with a 255/45x18 tire
<< These wheels will also supporta 275/40x18 tire if you need more meat.
<< A 285/40x18 is a perfect fit but there are very few good tires in this size.

Speaking of wheel deals I just accidentally found (and at this price I just had to purchase),anew set offorged Roush 18"x10" wheels with the stock 275/40x18 g/Force T/A KD tires as take offs from anew Stage 3 Roush foran unbelievable price from a local SoCal Ford dealer who is also a Roush dealer. These wheels are not the cheaper cast wheels thatRoush offers forthe lower Roush Sport and Stage1/2cars butforgings from billets of 6061 alloy. This wheel and tire combois about $4,000 from Roush! This large wheel and tire combo weight may be less than the stock 235/55x17 Pirellis and 17x8 Bullits and they're beautiful to boot. But personally I don't like chrome so much, anybody want to buy these fine wheels at half price?

Cheers!


Edited for clarity and some additional comments.

[DocVenture]

I had every intention of picking and choosing brands for every component. As it turns out I really like Steeda. Here's my wishlist off StangSuspensions. Any last minute additions or comments. I'm ordering everthing later this week.
555-8113 Steeda Billet Front Swaybar Mount - For 05-07 Mustangs $89.95 View - Remove - Add 555-4006 Steeda Front Control Arm Bushing Kit - For 05-07 Mustang $119.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8116 Steeda Front Control Arm Relocation Kit - For 05-07 Mustangs $79.95 View - Remove - Add 555-1050 Steeda Front Swaybar - For 05-07 Mustang GT $189.95 View - Remove - Add 555-5553 Steeda Front Swaybar Mount Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $99.95 View - Remove - Add 555-5530 Steeda G-Trac Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $59.95 View - Remove - Add 555-2555 Steeda Heavy Duty Panhard Bar Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $79.95 View - Remove - Add 555-1052 Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Swaybar w/ Endlinks - For 05-07 Mustangs $359.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8119 Steeda Lower Trailing Arm Relocation Brackets - Fits 05-07 Mustangs $129.95 View - Remove - Add 555-2551 Steeda Street Panhard Bar - For 05-07 Mustangs $159.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8106 Steeda Bumpsteer Kit (Blue) - For 05-07 Mustang $159.95 View - Remove - Add 013-0012-45 Steeda Pentar Wheels 18x9.5in Black - For 05-07 Mustangs $219.95 View - Remove - Add 35101.140 Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs 05-07 Mustang GT $224.95 View - Remove - Add 555-4422 Steeda Chrome-Moly Steel Lower Control Arms - For 05-07 Mustangs $209.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8120 Steeda Heavy Duty Upper Strut Mounts - For 05-07 Mustangs $279.95 View - Remove - Add DSP-12 Tokico D-Spec Wide-Range Adjustable Shocks & Struts Package - For 05-07 Mustangs $529.95 View - Remove - Add


F1Fan I found some 18x9 rims. You finally sold me.

[F1Fan]

ORIGINAL: DocVenture

I had every intention of picking and choosing brands for every component. As it turns out I really like Steeda. Here's my wishlist off StangSuspensions. Any last minute additions or comments. I'm ordering everthing later this week.
555-8113 Steeda Billet Front Swaybar Mount - For 05-07 Mustangs $89.95 View - Remove - Add 555-4006 Steeda Front Control Arm Bushing Kit - For 05-07 Mustang $119.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8116 Steeda Front Control Arm Relocation Kit - For 05-07 Mustangs $79.95 View - Remove - Add 555-1050 Steeda Front Swaybar - For 05-07 Mustang GT $189.95 View - Remove - Add 555-5553 Steeda Front Swaybar Mount Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $99.95 View - Remove - Add 555-5530 Steeda G-Trac Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $59.95 View - Remove - Add 555-2555 Steeda Heavy Duty Panhard Bar Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $79.95 View - Remove - Add 555-1052 Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Swaybar w/ Endlinks - For 05-07 Mustangs $359.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8119 Steeda Lower Trailing Arm Relocation Brackets - Fits 05-07 Mustangs $129.95 View - Remove - Add 555-2551 Steeda Street Panhard Bar - For 05-07 Mustangs $159.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8106 Steeda Bumpsteer Kit (Blue) - For 05-07 Mustang $159.95 View - Remove - Add 013-0012-45 Steeda Pentar Wheels 18x9.5in Black - For 05-07 Mustangs $219.95 View - Remove - Add 35101.140 Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs 05-07 Mustang GT $224.95 View - Remove - Add 555-4422 Steeda Chrome-Moly Steel Lower Control Arms - For 05-07 Mustangs $209.95 View - Remove - Add 555-8120 Steeda Heavy Duty Upper Strut Mounts - For 05-07 Mustangs $279.95 View - Remove - Add DSP-12 Tokico D-Spec Wide-Range Adjustable Shocks & Struts Package - For 05-07 Mustangs $529.95 View - Remove - Add

F1Fan I found some 18x9 rims. You finally sold me.

Hi DocV,

WOW! You are almost going to have my car's suspension!

SKIP THIS>>555-8113 Steeda Billet Front Swaybar Mount - For 05-07 Mustangs $89.95
>> I think they're pretty butthey don't actually do that much and you cannot use the billet mounts with
>>the 555-5553 braces which actuallyworkto support the anti-roll bar mounts on the front cross member.
555-4006 Steeda Front Control Arm Bushing Kit - For 05-07 Mustang $119.95
555-8116 Steeda Front Control Arm Relocation Kit - For 05-07 Mustangs $79.95
555-1050 Steeda Front Swaybar - For 05-07 Mustang GT $189.95
555-5553 Steeda Front Swaybar Mount Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $99.95
555-5530 Steeda G-Trac Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $59.95
555-2555 Steeda Heavy Duty Panhard Bar Brace - For 05-07 Mustangs $79.95
555-1052 Steeda Heavy Duty Rear Swaybar w/ Endlinks - For 05-07 Mustangs $359.95
555-8119 Steeda Lower Trailing Arm Relocation Brackets - Fits 05-07 Mustangs $129.95
555-2551 Steeda Street Panhard Bar - For 05-07 Mustangs $159.95
555-8106 Steeda Bumpsteer Kit (Blue) - For 05-07 Mustang $159.95
013-0012-45 Steeda Pentar Wheels 18x9.5in Black - For 05-07 Mustangs $219.95
35101.140 Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs 05-07 Mustang GT $224.95
555-4422 Steeda Chrome-Moly Steel Lower Control Arms - For 05-07 Mustangs $209.95
555-8120 Steeda Heavy Duty Upper Strut Mounts - For 05-07 Mustangs $279.95
DSP-12 Tokico D-Spec Wide-Range Adjustable Shocks & Struts Package - For 05-07 Mustangs $529.95

Did you forget #555-4109 Steeda's Adjustable Upper Comp/Street Kitwith Bushing End & HD UCA Mount?

I forgot about the Pentstar wheels which are reasonably light and very pretty looking wheels.&

[DocVenture]

OK 555-8113 Steeda Billet Front Swaybar Mount off the list. I'll have to call on 555-4109 Steeda's Adjustable Upper Comp/Street Kitwith Bushing End & HD UCA Mount,they don't have it on their site. one last question and I'm ready to go. What odd and end bolts / bushings shouldI replace / not reuse?

F1 Fan if you are ever near Louisville, KY I owe you all the Sam Adams you can drink!

[F1Fan]

ORIGINAL: DocVenture
OK 555-8113 Steeda Billet Front Swaybar Mount off the list. I'll have to call on 555-4109 Steeda's Adjustable Upper Comp/Street Kitwith Bushing End & HD UCA Mount,they don't have it on their site. one last question and I'm ready to go. What odd and end bolts / bushings shouldI replace / not reuse?

F1 Fan if you are ever near Louisville, KY I owe you all the Sam Adams you can drink!

Hi DocV,

Sure it's on the site, here is a picture of SteedaPN#555-4109 Adjustable Upper Comp/Street Kit - Bushing End & HD Mount.



Well technically you need to replace every suspension nut and bolt that you loosen or remove to install your new suspension parts. But what Ihave ound is thatyou can usually get a way with one additional torque cycle of all thmajor fasteners. Sometimes you can't and you will know when that is by the way thenuts behave when you are putting on the las 5-10% of the factory specified torque by hand. Basically ifyou are at 90% of the specified torque andhave to turn the nut more than 1/4 of a turn those fasteners are trash can material because the fasteners have stretched and have effectively failed. With regars to bushings if they are not sullpied with your suspension kit you just reuse the stock bushing. But with your parts list you wil not be using any of the original bushings except as paper weightsand conversation pieces.

I've never been able to get to Louisville butmy wife has traveled to thedrag strip there several times for work. She'sGeneralCounsule and VP of Legal for the NHRA so she has to travel on occassion. I almostwentwith a friend of mine who used to breed and train throughbreds back when he had aDerby runner but I could notmake the time andhe has never had a horse to run there since. Sign... people tell me it is beautiful but hard to get to though. I'll accept your offer of all the Sam Adams Lager I can drink if I ever manage to get to Louisvile.

Keep us posted on your car's progress, we all like ot hear about this stuff!

Cheers!

[RodeoFlyer]

F1 I thought the big boss said no more suspension shop? I'm willing to lend a helping hand. I have a few tweaks I need help with myself. BevMo is our friend!

[RodeoFlyer]

wow - new puter [:@]

font is HUGE lol

[F1Fan]

ORIGINAL: RodeoFlyer
F1 I thought the big boss said no more suspension shop? I'm willing to lend a helping hand. I have a few tweaks I need help with myself. BevMo is our friend!

Hi RodeoFlyer,

Shhhh! She did but I can't stand it any more! The only thing really keeping out the garage is the fact that her mother has been in the hospital for the last 3 out of 4 weeks and we NEVER leave any family member in the hospital alone without a family member or close family member in the room 24x7. It's amazing how many people it takes to manage a family member in the hospital. We have a lawyer, three doctors, two pharmacists, a CPA, a dietitian, a paid 24x7 caregiver and an army of grand children all taking care of her and seeing to herneeds inthe premierprivate hospital in the SoCal region.Needless to say this has me not getting any work done and has really put me in a bad mood. The way I see it a day or two of wrenching on a car could make me right again mentally. I really am starting to feel the disorienting effectlong periods of time in a hospital has on patients andthe peoplewhowork there.

Cheers!

[RodeoFlyer]

.......got alignment plates and a bumpsteer guage?