The unofficial resource center for Mustang owners and enthusiasts
Ford Mustang Forums - Ford Mustang Classifieds - MustangForums.com Photo Galleries - MustangForums.com Chat Room - Create an Account - Mustang News


Go Back   MustangForums.com > Ford Mustang Tech > 2005 - 2011 Mustangs > S197 Handling Section
Welcome to Mustang Forums!
Welcome to Mustang Forums.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-19-2009, 11:30 AM   #1
Goldenpony
4th Gear Member
 
Goldenpony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,528
Default Choice

I am going to be replacing my struts & shocks sometime soon. I'm looking for opinions. I am looking at either Koni SRT.T or Bilstein HD. I do not race my '06 GT 'Vert, I just want to improve the handing somewhat. I do not want adjustable shocks. Both shocks look like a good choice to me. The price difference between them doesn't bother me. Any opinions?
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Mustang Forums!
__________________
2006 Premium GT Convertible
Screaming Yellow, Black Top
5 Speed
18" "Fanblade Wheels"
CORSA Performance exhaust
Brenspeed 93 octane tune
MGW Shifter
Goldenpony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 11:35 AM   #2
pizzadish
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 2006 Mustang GT
Location: Fl.
Posts: 2
Default

I put ford racing struts, shocks and springs on my 06 gt. Lowered it an inch and a half and this thing is glued to the road. Out handles anything I've driven before and I've had alot of hod rods.
pizzadish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 12:16 PM   #3
socalwrench
3rd Gear Member
 
socalwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Vehicle: 2008 Mustang V8
Location: CA
Posts: 856
Default

If you're going to keep the stock spring rates, there's really no need for a stiffer damper to begin with. However, because the factory GT dampers are horrible- swapping them out will give you a noticeable improvement.

Here are a few choices:

Non-adj.:
-SVT (GT500) (black)
-Tokico HP (blue)
-Eibach Pro (also black)
-Ford Racing (also blue)
-Koni SRT (orange)

Adj.:
-Tokico D-specs (black)
-Koni Adj. (yellow)
__________________
Greg - Owner/Operator: GRH Performance
socalwrench is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 03:34 PM   #4
RodeoFlyer
4th Gear Member
 
RodeoFlyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Vehicle: '06 GT /
Location:
Posts: 1,675
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by socalwrench View Post
If you're going to keep the stock spring rates, there's really no need for a stiffer damper to begin with. However, because the factory GT dampers are horrible- swapping them out will give you a noticeable improvement.
Huh? That statement contradicts itself.

Goldenpony -

The search funtion is your friend, as this subject has been covered extensively. It's also a good idea to title a new thread in a manner that tells people what you want to talk about. Some of us look at them all for the hell of it, but most only enter threads they feel they have or need input on.

My experience with the Bilsteins with factory springs and lowering springs has been great, as Bilstein makes good stuff. I don't know about the Koni SRT, but their reputation tends to speak for itself as well. Strano might chime in, but then there's that thread title issue.....
__________________
Thanks to Wild Pony Motorsports, Ross Murray, and Agent 47.
RodeoFlyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 05:40 PM   #5
Blair
2nd Gear Member
 
Blair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Vehicle: 2010 Ford Mustang GT
Location: Florida
Posts: 217
Default

The Bilsteins are high pressure inverted monotube shocks while the Koni's are twin tubes. Here are some good atricles discussing the difference between the two, albeit from an import mag:

Twin tubes
http://www.modified.com/tech/0605_sc...5/dampers.html

Monotubes
http://www.modified.com/tech/0607_sc...t_6/index.html

Considering the price difference, I'd go for the Konis.
__________________
2010 Mustang GT Kona Blue 5spd 3.73s
19" ASA GT1s, Roush stg 2 suspension, GT500 strut mounts, Roush short shifter, Stoptech big brakes, Bama tune, JBA shorty headers, Steeda UDPs, Saleen watts link
Blair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 11:08 AM   #6
Garyalpusa
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12
Default

Dont know why your not considering adjustables? That way you can tune the shock for the spring you are using? If you do not buy a "system", ie matched parts, the chances of getting the ride you want is hit or miss. GA
__________________
05 GT GT500 conversion, Techco 428hp/396tq, Tillman tune. Hooker Super Comp LTs, Pypes HF cats, Steeda: Sport shifter, Front relo kit, HD strut pads. BMR: lowering springs, adj 3rd link, phb, rear relo brackets. Stillen adj front and rear sway bars. GT 500 18x9.5 wheels. GT500 14" Brembos, GT500 front lower control arms. Tokico D-specs
Garyalpusa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 11:36 AM   #7
Sam Strano
Sponsor
 
Sam Strano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 729
Default

I sell both Bilstein and Koni.

I do think the Koni's are much better value. Haven't had one unhappy customer on STR.T's yet, and they are certainly not as expensive as Bilstein's are. I also opt for Koni Sports over Bilstein because when you are in the HD price range, why not have adjustment?

I know all about the mono vs twin tube thing. And honestly there are times it can matter, but not here. A well valved twin-tube is superior to a poorly valved mono-tube. All else being equal, yes a mono-tube is "better" because it's got a bigger piston. But here all else isn't equal. I personally feel the Bilstein's lack rebound damping--at least for my tastes.

And fwiw, there are an awful lot of cars like a whole lot of Porsche's, BMW's, etc, that really work quite well with lowly twin-tubes.... I am looking at changing on the race car to a set of high-dollar mono-tubes. And when I say high dollar I mean $2k+ and I'm only considering it for one reason: There are two sites I run every year that have very abrupt impacts (one is frost heaves, one is between concrete blocks). I can count on one hand the times this year the car was upset by certain impacts... but considering the one site is where we run Nationals, and that's a game of thousandths of a second at times--it matters. Now if you aren't looking for that level of damping, and it seems you are not then this largely is a moot point.

I have twin-tubes on all my cars right now (and in one case they replaced a set of Bilstien mono-tubes). I don't regret it, and fwiw when customers come by to take rides and see what's what they never leave disappointed. In fact they leave shocked that cars with that much more spring, or damping ride so much better than stock.... FWIW.
__________________
Strano Performance Parts
www.stranoparts.com
814-849-3450
-----------------------------
SCCA National Champion (x6)
SCCA ProSolo Class Champion (now x5)
SCCA ProSolo Overall Champion 2009
Sam Strano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 12:28 PM   #8
wilkinda
2010 Section Moderator
 
wilkinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Vehicle: 2010, Ford Mustang GT Premium
Location: Riverview, FL
Posts: 1,733
Send a message via AIM to wilkinda
Default

I recently lowered my 2010 Mustang GT using the FRPP M-5300-K springs. I love the way it looks but the ride is very harsh. Stock this thing rode like a dream but looked like a 4x4.

I have thought about going with adjustable shocks and struts and trying to decide what is best. Suggestions are welcome!!
__________________
USAF (Retired) / Gas Turbine Controls Systems Engineer (Current)
Current: 2010 Ford Mustang GT Premium, Grabber Blue, (401A) Premier Interior Char /w Grabber Blue Stripe, 5-Speed, 3.73 rear, Electronic Pkg (Nav), 19" Painted Nickel Luster Wheels, Comfort Pkg, Security Pkg...

Current Mods: FRPP lowering springs, Roush O/R Exhaust, tinted windows, 3M Clear Bra, Headlight / Fog Tint


Delivered: July 27th, 2009

MyCarDomain Page
wilkinda is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 12:51 PM   #9
Sam Strano
Sponsor
 
Sam Strano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 729
Default

STR.T's, Koni Sports, Bilstein and D-specs are all good options. STR.T's are the least costly, Sports are the most expensive. Koni has the best warranty in my experience. Bilstein is second most expensive, not adjustable, great quality though. D-specs are in between STR.T and Bilstein on price, adjustable but in a coarse way--and Tokico's warranty service, well.... usually sucks.

FWIW, unlike a lot of other places that only carry one or two brands--I have all 4 (and others too, like Tokico Blues for instance).
__________________
Strano Performance Parts
www.stranoparts.com
814-849-3450
-----------------------------
SCCA National Champion (x6)
SCCA ProSolo Class Champion (now x5)
SCCA ProSolo Overall Champion 2009
Sam Strano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 12:56 PM   #10
wilkinda
2010 Section Moderator
 
wilkinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Vehicle: 2010, Ford Mustang GT Premium
Location: Riverview, FL
Posts: 1,733
Send a message via AIM to wilkinda
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Strano View Post
STR.T's, Koni Sports, Bilstein and D-specs are all good options. STR.T's are the least costly, Sports are the most expensive. Koni has the best warranty in my experience. Bilstein is second most expensive, not adjustable, great quality though. D-specs are in between STR.T and Bilstein on price, adjustable but in a coarse way--and Tokico's warranty service, well.... usually sucks.

FWIW, unlike a lot of other places that only carry one or two brands--I have all 4 (and others too, like Tokico Blues for instance).
Which would you recommend? My car will be mostly driven on highways but the mustang group i travel with tend to get spirited on the back-roads on our cruises and I have been thinking about taking her to the track to see what she can do... So I want adjustability to get ride and handling for all around driving
__________________
USAF (Retired) / Gas Turbine Controls Systems Engineer (Current)
Current: 2010 Ford Mustang GT Premium, Grabber Blue, (401A) Premier Interior Char /w Grabber Blue Stripe, 5-Speed, 3.73 rear, Electronic Pkg (Nav), 19" Painted Nickel Luster Wheels, Comfort Pkg, Security Pkg...

Current Mods: FRPP lowering springs, Roush O/R Exhaust, tinted windows, 3M Clear Bra, Headlight / Fog Tint


Delivered: July 27th, 2009

MyCarDomain Page
wilkinda is online now   Reply With Quote



Reply



Tags
gt, koni, mustang, srtt

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Advertising

Featured Sponsors
New Sponsors
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:13 PM.

© Internet Brands, Inc.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company