Panhard vs Watt's Looking For Detailed Info
#31
The spring rate feels great with the Fays2 Watts Link. I'm *still* getting the suspension dialed in. I threw so much at it in one afternoon's worth of work by putting on the Watts Link, Strano front and rear sway bars, Koni Sport shocks/struts, Steeda HD strut mounts, and BBR Billet LCA's. The ride is amazing over stock. The car is planted and corners like it is on rails. Here's the brutal honesty of the situation, everything is set pretty neutral right now. The only thing I have messed with is shock settings in the couple of weeks I've had it. We've had some cold weather, and I've been working crazy hours. This weekend, I plan on getting up under the car and adjusting the Watts a little and possibly taking a little out of the front bar. I *should* have done one thing at a time, but I had a buddy with a lift and all the right tools, and we knocked it all out in about 5 hours. I know the suspension as it sits right now isn't configured in an optimal setting, but half the fun will be getting it dialed in.
Factory Springs w/ 19" rims
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Steeda Sports w/ 18" GT500 rims
2011 Race Red Ford Mustang GT (stripes removed) by jsnyng, on Flickr
Last edited by jsnyng; 12-27-2010 at 10:03 PM.
#32
I'd be glad to give my subjective review on each if Sam would be so kind as to send me a Fays2 test unit for a few weeks .
#33
The Watts link on the street makes a huge difference. The whole point is that the more uneven the driving surface combined with wanting to corner hard and accelerate out of corners is the reason to get the Watts link.
The Techco Watts link I have plants the rear with no butt kick out while cornering hard over bumps or dips. The original panhard set up was terrible, anyone driving in the car on a bumpy corner would say "what was that??" referring to the lateral slide of the car on cornering on bumps.
Accelerating out of uneven turns is also much better because there is a lot less throw out to the rear wheels. Along with my better springs, shocks, and swaybars, the watts link is the best money spent for eliminating most of the issues with our solid axles.
In my experience on the street, there is a large improvement in cornering stability with a good Watts link, which does not include the generation 1 and 2 from Saleen, which are prone to having the center bolt fail, and the Gen 1 unit's support arms were designed too short, and did not eliminate lateral movement like the Techco model and Steeda and Fays units. Erik
The Techco Watts link I have plants the rear with no butt kick out while cornering hard over bumps or dips. The original panhard set up was terrible, anyone driving in the car on a bumpy corner would say "what was that??" referring to the lateral slide of the car on cornering on bumps.
Accelerating out of uneven turns is also much better because there is a lot less throw out to the rear wheels. Along with my better springs, shocks, and swaybars, the watts link is the best money spent for eliminating most of the issues with our solid axles.
In my experience on the street, there is a large improvement in cornering stability with a good Watts link, which does not include the generation 1 and 2 from Saleen, which are prone to having the center bolt fail, and the Gen 1 unit's support arms were designed too short, and did not eliminate lateral movement like the Techco model and Steeda and Fays units. Erik
#35
It does put down the power better, but if you have more HP than the tires will hold you will still break traction. You just break traction in a straight line instead of the rear end kicking out and getting sideways. My car was straight up ornery at WOT from 1-2, but now it just shoots forward like a rocket in a straight line.
#36
It helps with the side to side movement of
the rear end during rear end suspension travel.
I dont see it doing much for off the line performance.
The rear end does not 'kick out' all that much
during rear suspension take-off squat.
Do the math. Not enought to 'break traction
or cause you to go sideways.
the rear end during rear end suspension travel.
I dont see it doing much for off the line performance.
The rear end does not 'kick out' all that much
during rear suspension take-off squat.
Do the math. Not enought to 'break traction
or cause you to go sideways.
#37
It helps with the side to side movement of
the rear end during rear end suspension travel.
I dont see it doing much for off the line performance.
The rear end does not 'kick out' all that much
during rear suspension take-off squat.
Do the math. Not enought to 'break traction
or cause you to go sideways.
the rear end during rear end suspension travel.
I dont see it doing much for off the line performance.
The rear end does not 'kick out' all that much
during rear suspension take-off squat.
Do the math. Not enought to 'break traction
or cause you to go sideways.
#38
It does put down the power better, but if you have more HP than the tires will hold you will still break traction. You just break traction in a straight line instead of the rear end kicking out and getting sideways. My car was straight up ornery at WOT from 1-2, but now it just shoots forward like a rocket in a straight line.
#40
I thought you said you were out of them when we last spoke! To be fair I did call your shop a few times but you were probably running around on Monday. Saw tirerack had them stocked and picked them up. I can afford the fronts now w/o giving up a kidney if you can locate any.